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“The fundamental weakness is empathy,” Musk recently told radio podcast host Joe Rogan. “There is a bug, which is the empathy response.”

As Musk has established himself as at least the second most powerful person in an administration seeking a wholesale remaking of institutions, rules and norms, what he said matters, because it encapsulates a political plan. What the Project 2025 report set out in over 900 turgid pages, Musk’s remark captures in a simple pithy mantra for the social media age.

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[–] Gurei@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 hour ago

Empathy is one of the foundational blocks of the society he abuses.

[–] Kumasousa@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 hour ago

The fact he says this, he proves that he really never cared for the human good, all that talk was just to people buy his shit.

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

I guess it closes the debate about Musk being autistic. Autistics are more likely to be hyper empathetic.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 hour ago

Narcissists can display similar traits similar to autistic people. You’re right, he’s not autistic, just a narcissist.

[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 1 points 43 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

Wasn't the opinion of my psychologist about me. She told me I'm mildly autistic and that I show little empathy.

For example I saw a dead pigeon on the bike lane and my concern was: my wife behind me might ride over it and be distressed.

And it's not that I care about her being distressed if I'm saying the truth. It's that her distress would be a pain to handle. That the bike would be dirty which would cause further distress to my wife.

Her response to seeing the dead pigeon was that she thought it was sad.

Empathy is tricky 🤷🏻‍♂️ the only thing I feel about this truly, is guilt. But that's all.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Speaking as someone who is autistic, autism is rarely a one-size fits all diagnosis.

While Hyper Empathy can be a side-effect of Autism, another is the exact opposite where your sense of empathy is limited to "So what have you done for me lately?", in this case the person has absolutely no understanding of interaction outside of it being transactional.

Musk is definitely this kind

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

And adds another chapter to the debate about him being a psychopath.

[–] evergreen@lemmy.world 19 points 2 hours ago

Empathy as a weakness is exactly what I'd expect to hear from a sociopath. If everybody thought this way, we'd have no civilized society.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 23 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Empathy is a skill and he doesn't have it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

It's a useful skill if you're trying to cultivate a popular following. The funny thing is that he used to have it and was quite good at feeling people out for a popular vibe. Now he's too ketted out to feel anything. Just a rolling ball of Id, bouncing between hungry, cranky, and horny.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

I wonder if he was ever good at it, or if before he got a pass on being a weird guy because his goals seemed positive (save the planet, push tech forward). Now that he's fixated on manosphere/nazi shit, more people are less willing to overlook his idiosyncrasies.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

He's gone too far with special k and needs to come back. Many such cases observed in the scene during my youth.

[–] exonode@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Empathy is an ability not a skill. It's not a mundane tool to get what you want.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

you're right, it's not a tool to get what you want

it's a tool to not be a horrible person

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

Plenty of conmen and torturers can tell you differently. Whether your soul can bear the burden of your actions is far removed from what you can accomplish with your abilities.

[–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 4 points 2 hours ago

It is a inbuilt limit that prevents (most of us) from doing harm to our fellow humans, and to shun from society those that do. It is the very core of why humanity has reached the modern society with a high quality of life.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

There are a lot of skills he doesn’t have.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago

The line between stupidity and evil is rather slim

[–] johncandy1812@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 hours ago

Greatest thing I did with my life was to increase my understanding of other people's lives. He is toxic, whether he's trolling or not

I get saying it's wrong what he said (you would be right) but imo it's kinda missing the point. The most important thing to see imo is it's extremely pathetic. This is the same mf faking Path of Exile and diablo accounts so he can seem cool (he kept saying he was a top player so he would get kudos from the gaming community).

This man is probably the most thin skinned idiot I've ever seen. So it must be extremely convenient for him to see himself as the bad guy with no empathy whose cold rational calculation leads to emotionless decisions or whatever huge cope he tells himself every day. The reality is he's got more money than God and is running the current US administration and yet is still so mentally weak he is posting on Twitter hundreds of times per day about how he's being persecuted and actually arguing in the comment sections

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago

#shitsociopathssay

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

So when he crashes and burns, or dies of a drug overdose, I'm not supposed to care?

Cool. I think I can manage that.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Hell, I can manage to celebrate

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

From a fascists pov it is. But only from a fascists point of view.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 hours ago

from a psychopath’s point of view, really….
they like to tell themselves it’s a sort of superpower….
a narcissist kind of thing….
like when Ted Bundy was defending himself in trial for murdering a 12 year old girl, he kept asking the police to describe the crime scene, and thought that showing no emotion would prove he didn’t do it…

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

Empathy is Weakness. In almost all movies they tell about that. Well not the good guys. Hell Emperor Palpatine.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 33 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 hour ago

Wow such virtue signaling /s

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 26 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"I'm a sociopath." - Elon Musk

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"I'm a sociopath, empathy is a weakness, therefore you should be a sociopath also, or you're doing it wrong." --Elmo, paraphrased

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

"I'm a sociopath, therefore being a sociopath is best, because the alternative would confuse me."

[–] MadPoetNavarth@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago
  1. Strength was originally Fortitude

FORTITUDE.—Power, energy, action, courage, magnanimity; also complete success and honours.

Reversed: Despotism, abuse of power, weakness, discord, sometimes even disgrace.

I think it's accurate to say that Musk has tried to portray Strength in the past. But he has revealed his true power level as the embodiment of the reverse.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 24 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If empathy is the weakness to my species, I'm glad we're committing suicide by capitalist made climate change.

Without empathy, we have no redeeming characteristics and nothing of value will be lost.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

Psychopaths can still be valuable members of society as surgeons who aren't freaked out by cutting into people. Their lives are worth something.

We've just got an economic system that puts them exclusively in charge.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 7 hours ago

Yes, the one thing that has kept our species' societies (sometimes barely) working for millennia is the bug, just because you're incapable of it, you goddamn ghoul.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago

Huh...an admitted psychopath

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Like… Durh he believes this. He lived this and won pretty handily by never giving a shit about anyone. Now he’s the richest and most powerful person alive, so obviously he’s onto something! All this money can’t be wrong!

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Fuck Joe Rogan for letting him say shit like that unchecked.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, who's surprised ? Joe Rogan isn't even a yes man. Dude appears to be physically incapable of exercising critical thinking.

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