Mail: Posteo is missing.
Also: Spotify is a bad joke.
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Not really big on not trust for Proton currently either.
Also: Kindle?
Thank you for Informative infograpahic. However i have doubt about recommending Waterfox, in my opinion it should not be recommended for the reason that its involved in an unclear business practice to sustain its development.
Waterfox is a fork of Firefox with some tweaking, probably somewhat close to LibreWolf which i think have better offering for being more a community driven project.
However, web browser is a complex piece of software, features and important bugs & security fixes being added from time to time, so it is also important to consider how fast they merge the change from Upstream (Firefox). If it's too long to to get update it could introduce security issues. So as of now i don't see any viable alternative to Firefox, Chromium or even Ungoogled Chromium.
Funny how the social media section doesn't mention Facebook, which is by far more used here in Romania than Twitter/X, nor Instagram. For the latter the fediverse alternative is Pixelfed, for the former one could either use Friendica or make account on a Mastodon instance with higher character-limit - the one I use has the cap as high as 10,000 characters, so I can type long posts just like on Facebook, instead of just tweets. There is also Veklar, which claims to become soon a more GDPR-compliant alternative to fediverse, allowing private posts and messages; the problem is that it's not decentralized, but its only server is based in France...
When it comes to browsers, one could look into Zen Browser (the developer seems to be from Spain), Librewolf (possibly US-connected, keep that in mind), Floorp (desktop-only; developers seem to be Japanese), and for Android browsing probably Iceraven or IronFox.
Signal? What about Threema and XMPP clients?
Wasn't Qwant secretly tracking you or something?
Spotify? Is this a joke? Lol
What’s the reason they give mastodon the privacy badge, but don’t give it to lemmy or signal?
The Fediverse is great, but privacy really isn't its thing. Anyone thinking the Fediverse is the privacy-focused choice has really misunderstood the whole pitch.
That's what happens when you half ass your work.
Honestly privacy and social media don't make sense together at all. With all of these platforms, your privacy = how much you share on them. You can't share sensitive information on any social media (corpo or federated) and expect it to be private.
Privacy is not only anonymity.
It also includes things like security and built in surveillance capitalism tools.
Spotify donates to Trump and is overall horrible.
Deezer is a French alternative to Spotify, it pays artists a little bit more. https://www.musictrendz.com/post/which-streaming-service-pays-artists-the-most
Qobuz is another French streaming service that pays one of the most in the industry
https://darko.audio/2025/01/which-streaming-service-pays-artists-the-most/
I ditched Spotify recently after it started pushing MAGA/Musk content for no reason. I tried Deezer and Qobuz and really wanted to like them, but Qobuz had the most godawful terrible recommendations and Deezer's Android app had poorly designed navigation and felt like it hadn't been updated in a decade.
Access Industries has a 41.4% ownership of it. They also own Warner Music Group.
Also:
In 2015, the company donated $1.8 million to Super PACs supporting Republican presidential candidates Scott Walker and Lindsey Graham.[75]
Sad to learn they are majorly USA owned then. Their offices are still mainly in Paris and the data is processed in France. I have been using them back and forth for more than a decade. At the beginning, you could upload your own library (including copyrighted albums) and make it available for streaming to other people, it was a fun time.
And they unironically say to join them on reddit.
They do call out switching to Lemmy in the graphic at least, thought that was pretty funny tho as well. Could link to a Lemmy community as well for the same thing
My guess is that it's to reach the people on Reddit but not on anything else.
Spotify doesn’t belong in there at or or in the left being transitioned to another.
free: arrr... (distant parrot noises).
To be more on topic: In deezer you could listen to audiobooks in correct order with just a random email account.
My last disappointing use of spotify free was, as it force-shuffled the album I was listening to.
I know many people feel entrapped by streaming services, but I switched to Bandcamp like 10 years ago and have never been happier with my music habits. I buy music I like on Bandcamp Friday and store it locally on my PC/phone. Load up and take away as needed.
Sure, it's a bit more effort to purposefully seek new music, but I love that process. Makes it a very deliberate listening experience.
I am afraid Bandcamp is US-based...?
It is, but if you only purchase on Bandcamp Friday then the platform doesn't take a cut of the sales.
I'm well aware of that (I'm a Bandcamp user), but I'm concerned about the fact they rely on US servers. There are a lot of independent musicians who only want to publish on Bandcamp, not on Spotify and YT. In the extreme scenario where the POTUS might instate a great Internet firewall, we - active Bandcamp users - might end up dependent on VPNs. Let's see if there's going to be any European Bandcamp alternative.
Yeah that's fair. I suppose I haven't really considered that because I treat Bandcamp as a storefront only, and download + maintain my library locally. So if the servers died tomorrow the only thing I'd lose is the ability to purchase. In some ways the great fracturing of online platforms is bound to be a net positive for most communities.
That means you either have way more disposable income than people like me or you consume very little music. As an amateur music critic of sorts, I have to stream much more music than I could realistically afford. And I still remember the days when most music was only legally available as 30-second previews...
I do listen to music for several hours every day, and tend to buy an album about once every 3-4 weeks. But my pool of music now is very deep with albums, probably not as wide as most algorithm/streaming services could provide. Its a slow build though, I've been accumulating albums at about $10-20/month since COVID (and had a bunch of pirated stuff before then). On Bandcamp that amount can get you 1 or 30 albums depending on the artist.
As a a critic though you definitely are under different circumstances and I understand why streaming is probably hard to escape from. I still prefer when artists have their own websites but that comes with its own set of challenges! Luckily my national radio (Triple J, Australia) has it's own artist platform for up and comers (Unearthed).
I though Orion was free to use?
It is.
Guessing OP marked it as paid thinking it was because Kagi search engine is paid. Same developers.
MASTODON
I have just changed from fastmail (Australian owned, but hosted in the US) to mailbox.org (German owned and hosted, as I understand it).
The reasoning is that I didn't want my email provider to be reliant on a US hosting service. This graphic has fastmail as a preferred choice though, and doesn't mention mailbox.org at all.
Of all the alternatives for gmail, why suggest another American solution? GMX (.com, .net, .de, .ch) has been around for 30 years, is fully German owned and hosted, and got both free and paid tiers just like mail.com.
There's also the free ksuite mail/drive as a free email alternative!
Codamail.com
probably not the right place to ask but I can never view posts like this in full resolution. Like I zoom in and it's just blurry. Right now I'm using photon web front end to view the post on dbzer0.com
edit: oh this image is hosted on a third party image host. The image hosted on lemmy is just the thumbnail.