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John Brown was a deep Christian too, so I don't know maybe there is something to it after all.

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[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 hours ago

For anyone who is interested in knowing if she ever ended up shooting a fascist, here's the relevant paragraph from Wikipedia:

As she was extremely nearsighted, Weil was a very poor shot. Her comrades tried to avoid taking her on missions, though she did sometimes insist. Her only direct participation in combat was to shoot with her rifle at a bomber during an air raid; in a second raid, she tried to operate the group's heavy machine gun, but her comrades prevented her, as they thought it would be best for someone less clumsy and near-sighted to use the weapon. After being with the group for a few weeks, she burnt herself over a cooking fire.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago

To be fair, taking out a fascist is the key to a happy afterlife

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

The Psalms are beautiful.

Must have been that psalm about smashing your enemies babies' heads against the rocks that sold her.

[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What religion were the fascists?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

That's actually a fairly complicated answer, regarding the Spanish Civil War. To my (very weak) understanding the Nationalists weren't strictly Christians, but were definitely supported by several different Christian factions which were vying for power. It's probably a lot more nuanced than that, and I'm just a stupid American with basically zero real knowledge of the Spanish Civil War.

Also, Christian anarchists actually aren't that unusual. Chris Hedges, for example, is a modern one. If I recall correctly, it's the argument that the only real Kingdom is the Kingdom of Heaven, and as such, human society should be completely non-hierarchical because we're all sinners. Which like, I don't believe in it, but I can vibe with that.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 0 points 3 hours ago

I'm an anti-authoritarian Christian, years ago I considered myself an anarchist but not now. My take is that the kingdom of heaven isn't at all the only kingdom, but rather the only eternal kingdom. There is real authority on earth but it should be used to lift people up and free people from bondage. But also there is no shortage of evil and oppression around, that is reality.

I think most Christians want good peaceful lives for all people but the misinformation, indoctrination, gaslighting, strawmanning and such give many of them terrible views on how to work towards that goal.

I think most governments are bloated and ineffective, self-serving and corrupt. Historically the best government is a good king who really cares for his people. But there have been very few of them and since most people with too much power are corrupted by it, I understand building in layers of accountability. We need to ensure that one of those doorstops for abuse is the every-man.

[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 0 points 6 hours ago

So Christians vs Christians, got it.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 17 hours ago

We’re all ~~sinners~~ schmucks βœ…

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Anarchism should be communism + Christianity.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Except the whole no gods thing

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I don't think atheism is central to anarchism. Opposition to religion (in its institutional and hierarchical form) is, but not belief in a higher being per se.

Anarchism can make Christianity non-authoritarian, and Christianity can teach anarchism how to be spiritual. Of course nor anarchism nor Christianity need each other, but I like how they complete each other.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

You can certainly hamfist Christianity into supporting whatever political opinion you want, as is Christian tradition.

Generally I don't like supernatural beliefs and the idea of a god makes me throw up but you do you.

[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

Not to mention quakers often gave communists spaces to organise in and hold meetings.

[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There have been Christian anarchists. Jacques Ellul comes to mind. His book on propaganda is pretty good.

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I like him, even if he had bad stances on some subjects (like Israel or abortion). He's too much on the evangelical side to me, even if he was not an actual evangelical. But was right on sooooo much subjects!

[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

I never got in to deep on his personal stances on certain issues, I thought the book propaganda was good though. I think lots of thinkers of his time had bad stances on Isreal though.