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Sorry maybe I'm dumb. But does this mean VIM and Obsidian are Vi?
I usually refer to im as "vi" just to ~~make people think I'm old school and cool~~ save time typing that last character.
But Obsidian??
Oh yes. My "excell isn't a database" program. Obsidian.
Vi is actually a predecessor to Vim but many people, myself included, will alias Nvim or Vim to Vi. And I've seen people use Vi as a catch all too.
The comments on this post went exactly like they have over the past 20 years, with one exception.
Emacs is all but forgoten.
Vim wins.
Be real fukin careful now. Youβll tear my enacs from my cold dead hands
(But yeah, I use evil-mode. Also I edit files on remote servers with vim. Iβm a traitorβ¦)
When people are free to choose the best editor for them, we ALL win.
Unless it happens to be Ms word, in which case we all lose
Recently, I recommended to a friend that basic vim/vi is worth learning because it's a baseline that you can always trust will be there across different Linux systems.
They asked me what I used most on my home system, and the answer was emacs, but I was very clear that I was not recommending it. It's a particular kind of person who finds themselves at home in emacs, and for everyone besides those people, selling them on emacs would feel like persuading them to do hard drugs.
Didn't even macs have vi?
Basically every Unix-derived OS comes with vi. Emacs came out in 1976, macs didn't exist until 1984.
Yes and it's better than TextEdit that is bundled with MacOs
I think there's a good reason for that. If you're not as concerned about resource consumption (Emacs used to be called "Eight Megabytes and Constantly Swapping", back when 8MB was a lot), then there's no reason to avoid even more complex and resource intensive IDEs. People who wanted a complex editor, but in a relatively small footprint, stuck with some variant of vi.
Thus, vi found a stable evolutionary niche. It's a tardigrade.
you have offended all 6 of us, prepare for retribution
What makes 6 so popular?
Because vii viii ix
LXIX my balls! Haha got'em.
Believe it or not, this is the second time I got to make that joke within an hour.
We don't want a viditor, we want an editor. Why? Because ed is the standard!
Well, "vi is love" is something I always see as "masochism is related to sex".
How would you categorize masochism as not sex? :o
Everything is sex, except sex, which is power
- Not Oscar Wild
Oscar wild is pure sex and resting in power, so...maybe both
I know it from the Janelle monet song which apparently quotes a book from 2002 but I find it hard to believe that's the first time the phrase was said.
Well, using vi without being forced at gunpoint.
And before you accuse me of being an Emacs fanatic - nope, they exist on the same level of masochism.
Emacs
(ducks)
Emacs
It's a sound choice. I don't like to use it, personally, because I want to use something that uses same motions and syntax as editors on servers that I don't own (ex. customers). And, I'm not a fan of Lisp. It's a great and (self-)extensible text editor/lisp interpreter, though.
Vi hasnβt been updated since 2005. Arenβt everyone just using vim or neovim?
I use whatever the machine gives me when I type vi
, I assume it's usually vim