If all my friends, family, and coworkers could get off WhatsApp, I would be so happy.
this post was submitted on 24 Jan 2025
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I'm trying to convince mine to get on Signal
I just did convince my family and all close friends to move to signal.
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WhatsApp? Just use signal already!
Centralized. Not good. Conversations is on fdroid and is decentralized, federated, open source and uses a mature and battle tested protocol (XMPP). If I wanted something new, I would prefer Matrix over Signal.
People act like we need an alternative to Whatsapp but XMPP/Jabber exists and is much older.
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It's not really a whatsapp alternative. More like a facebook messenger alternative. It replaces and encrypts dms from mastodon, pixelfed, lemmy, etc
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Signal? Just use matrix already!
Matrix? Just use telepathy already! /s
I prefer Matrix over Signal because it required personal numbers.
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Stuff like this is a major, major component of dealing with nazis.
And even after they're dealt with, it's a better way of doing things, anyway. If it's a company, you're not on their social media platform, as much as you can possibly manage.
Which is a lot.
Btw, you can also donate on Patreon, OpenCollective, and Liberapay.
I’m guessing using Kickstarter has the benefit of adding hype as a new thing. I’ve always been curious about Open Collective and Liberapay. Have you tried it? Was it a smooth process?
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which uses the newer AT Protocol
This "newer" seems to be doing a lot of work.
Man, Dansup is tearing it up like an absolute beast. Donate to his fund.
Never heard of Sup for some reason, gotta check it out.
Sup hasn't been released yet, so that's probably why you haven't heard of it. Dan says beta testing launches early 2025.
Is it really just one guy writing three different platforms?
There's hundreds of other contributers, but he started them all and did the bulk of the work. The plan is to have more regular developers if they get enough donations.
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- PixelFed
- SUP
- Loops
- fedidb
- pubkit
Five.
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I'm really excited for it. I might actually be able to get my family off Whatsapp because of fuckerberg, but I can't get them to move twice. I'm debating pushing signal now, or waiting it out for sup
The challenge with messengers like Matrix and WhatsApp (and I assume sup, correct me if I'm wrong) is that they don't encrypt the metadata like Signal's sealed sender. Knowing exactly who you talk to and how frequently is a very juicy target for the government ... And the government right now is orange Hitler and his ragtag team of muppets, so I trust that they'll abuse whatever power and knowledge they have to the utmost.
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It started out as a major upgrade to Pixelfed's dm system and got spun off into it's own thing, same as Loops.
Basically a tool to add encrypted messaging to the fediverse, using the Signal protocol.
Okay so
BlueSky = Twitter
Loops = TikTok
PixelFed = Instagram
Sup = What's App
Lemmy = Reddit
~~BlueSky~~ Mastodon = Twitter
Loops = TikTok
PixelFed = Instagram
Sup = What's App
Lemmy = Reddit
What can replace Facebook?
And how can anyone convince all their friends, family, and random people the follow, to jump platform?
What can replace Facebook?
Facebook was a mistake that doesn't need to be repeated, but both Friendica and GoToSocial have facebookish UI, if that's what you mean.
100% disagree. Facebook, at one point, had a close to ideal interface, in my opinion.
Mastodon adopted the very annoying features of automatically tagging users, and character limits which inherently create conflict, and make reading statements confusing as fuck. Then refuses to offer an option for admins to adjust it. And I need a fuckin decoder ring to decipher the replies.
PixelFed adopted the very annoying features of Instagram that require photos, but no one cares and they just post photos of text, and with the federation of other platforms like Mastodon, that's just going to happen. It also lacks the ability to follow hashtags, so it's actually worse than IG in some ways.
Facebook supports all types of media and the groups feature actually works pretty well. I probably don't need to explain what makes it shitty now.
Don't get me wrong, I hope people join any of these, as they're inherently superior to their more popular alternatives, but I wish the devs would actually consider how the platform should work rather than just copying and pasting their mistakes.
PixelFed adopted the very annoying features of Instagram that require photos, but no one cares and they just post photos of text, and with the federation of other platforms like Mastodon, that’s just going to happen. It also lacks the ability to follow hashtags, so it’s actually worse than IG in some ways.
The purpose of Pixelfed is photo-sharing. When I'm using Pixelfed I don't want to see everything, I just want photos. It is insanely rare for people on Pixelfed to post images of text. In fact, the global feed is mostly useless on Pixelfed because you're inundated with Mastodon users "quoting" by posting images of text. But they just announced that they're soon including a setting to allow text posts, allowing the Pixelfed app to be used as a Mastodon client.
You can follow hash tags on Pixelfed.
I don't see why everything has to be everything. Mastodon is for micro-blogging. If you're posting 20,000 word essays, you're not really micro-blogging. These all seem like reasonable choices for their intended purposes, not like mistakes at all. It might just be a mistake for you to choose those when what you want is Friendica.
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As for convincing people to join, I'm not sure if we can. Lead a horse to water and all that.
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BlueSky is another corporate microblog platform, which could end up going the way of Twitter. I'm not saying it will be bought by a fascist billionaire, but they will be beholden to advertisers at some point in the near future.
I would highly recommend finding a Mastodon, Akkoma, or GoToSocial instance that aligns with your values and use that instead. If you are concerned about the network effects of not being on the 'biggest' platform where all the celebs are, there is a Bluesky->Mastodon bridge available.
Bluesky is just Twitter before being bought by Elon Musk. The real alternative is Mastodon. Bluesky can go fuck itself.
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Has anyone here tried Loops? Does it have an algorithm and if so what's it like? Any good?
It has a "For You" tab but it's not doing anything yet. Or... I don't know what it's doing, to be honest.
Dansup said that he's adding an algorithm soon.
I got it on my android phone. Currently just a chronological stream off all posts. A lot is just resposts of tiktoks or other cribbed content. When it's not taken from tiktok, I feel like it's pretty mild random video of pets or landscapes.
Folks if you still have legacy social, agitation over there is doing rounds right now. Unfortunately, there's significantly fewer of us working to get people onboarded than thee last migration. If you still have those accounts, please consider plugging fedi.
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Let's hope this helps dansup get past the recent unpleasantness and he can delegate more. His output is amazing but burnout is a concern.
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