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[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 66 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Neat data, but it seems like starting the coloring at 40% is really high.

I'm curious what this would look like if they counted counties with 25% and above degree requirements.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

not really, that's roughly the percentage for the entire population of the country.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Exactly. The less educated population matters just as much as the more educated. Those people are not represented in this map.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

here's all the counties by education attainment. high school, 4-year college, graduate/professional degree.

source of the visuals:
www.smartick.com/data/visualizing-the-most-and-least-educated-counties-in-america/

using data from the census:
https://www.census.gov/data/developers/data-sets/acs-5year.html

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago

Other than the obvious typo on the top chart, this is really interesting information.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Why would they be? The map is clearly not about that information. That would be a map titled “percent people 25+ WITHOUT a bachelor’s degree.”

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[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 63 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is somewhat a "people live in cities" graph, but not as stark of one I expected. Not all big cities are so educated, plus there are a lot of rural places that draw in a surprising number of people with advanced degrees.

Still, I'm amused that Interstate 29 in specific lights up like a string of Christmas lights.

[–] bisby@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Based on the states I know, some of the surprising rural areas are where state universities are.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

"People live in cities and get degrees in college towns" map.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I live in such a place. You'd think it would be a bluish county because of it, but it's deeply red.

[–] kyle@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oklahoma only has 1 county lit up, and it's where a state university is, OSU. But it's ranked lower nationally than OU (#196 vs #132). Both are in otherwise small towns, basically overrun by their respective colleges. Anecdotally, Norman (OU) is known to have nothing in town, but Stillwater (OSU) has it's own subculture and town pride.

I'm curious how many of these counties just contain college towns vs how many actually might attract highly educated people.

[–] pshyco_sain@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

Norman is effectively a suburb of OKC. Also it's by county so all the stuff actually closer to OKC will out weigh the college town there.

It does appear to be mostly college towns and some high education cities though

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah. It is interesting that Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Phoenix, and Miami aren't on here while Salt Lake City, Denver, and Atlanta are very visible.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Denver vs Vegas and LA isn't surprising. Cities built on industries that don't require education won't be massively educated

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[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Whycome the south doesn't has orange boxes? Is we stupid?

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

No I ain’t

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

NC and TN have some. But we often is.

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[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

One can see the impact of the Yellowstone national park quite clearly.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Same with Los Alamos Labs in NM. That orange spot has more PhDs per Capita than anywhere else in the states.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Cambridge, Massachusetts might be its rival

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[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I want to see the map with 20-30 and 30-40 too!

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I want to see a map with % of high school equivalency.

I am part of the original map though, I only have an associates

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you are wondering what that red spot in Wyoming ans adjacent green in Idaho is, they are the Teton counties (one on each state).

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah, Teton County is easy to understand although I do question how they have a higher percentage than Albany County. What I'm really wondering about though is that orange county in South Western Colorado. WTF is that about?

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

San Miguel County. There isn't too much there, but it does have Telluride, a very posh ski town. If I had to guess, I would say the less-educated staff (hotel housekeeping, restaurant servers, lift operators, etc) are only there seasonally but business owners/managers and maybe some remote workers are there permanently, skewing things a bit?

I would LOVE to see a better answer than mine!

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure this is the answer. That county is super sparsely populated, outside of Telluride. Telluride is a mini Aspen, so is populated by wealthy (and thus usually educated) people.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I live near Indianapolis.

You wouldn't now it.

Edit: Ironically, I made a spelling typo. Sigh.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It appears that the red county is Hamilton County, not Marion County.

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[–] Haus@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago

In 1911, the Hoosier State House came within one vote of rounding 'k' off to backspace.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Dang CO, you smart sexy bastard.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Mississippi making Arkansas and Louisiana look bad.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Damn, Arizona and Utah. What happened to you?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And Arkansas and Louisiana. They're all in the South, no surprise there. :/

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[–] geogle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I see you, Los Alamos.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Without having done my research, this feels like a lack of data more than anything.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Let me guess the red in Indiana contains Purdue and Bloomington

[–] Legge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Neither I believe it's Hamilton County, the (comparatively) rich suburb of Indianapolis.

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[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Ah. That's why.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Why only count people older than 25?

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because otherwise the data would be artificially lower in areas with more children.

For example, imagine a suburb in Utah filled with college educated software engineers with big Mormon families. If you count the kids, it might look like people there don't have degrees.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Doesn't a bachelor's take 4-5 years, with people starting around 18-19? I guess we're only talking about a year or two so the higher age is to help cut down on the noise (doubt there's many people with bachelor's dying before 25 to skew the results)

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Below 25 it depends on how fast you finish your studies whether you own a bachelor's degree yet or not.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It filters out college towns with large masters and doctorate programs.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's a good point, need to control for students. Wouldn't 25 year olds still be in school for their doctorates though?

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Counties with colleges have a higher amount of college degrees, neat

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