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Teenagers could lose bank accounts and driving licences for snubbing national service, Rishi Sunak says (www.independent.co.uk)

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[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 76 points 11 months ago (2 children)

the central government giving a generation of young people a logical reason to operate unbanked is about the most shoot-yourself-in-the-foot move i've heard this year. like even saying it's a possibility down the road is wildly stupid.

it's like step 0 in "how to grow the informal economy astronomically"

[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe that's why they want to start counting the informal economy towards GDP

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm sure they want to. every country wants to get a taste in taxes, but it is unrecorded, invisible, and generally impenetrable by virtue of it's function.

people spend 5 years attempting to estimate the informal economic activity of a single sector in a single community and it's just a number on a page. it's like "estimating" how many people in Canada had how many embarrassing, secret dreams about unicorns last year.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

40 million by the way.

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago

Especially in a country that is basically a pirate haven for finance criminals

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 70 points 11 months ago

In bad country you take a big hit to your social credit score for not signing up to fight in imperialist wars.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 70 points 11 months ago (4 children)

bleak and gray
no one having kids
creating anticitizens

Britain is turning into a real life City 17

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago

I can't pick up that can though (no can-handling license)

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well yeah. Britain is stalinist

[–] healthkick@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Stalin built parks and provided free healthcare, and when providing cheap and efficient public transport made a point of also making it beautiful.

Britain is Thatcherist.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No i think it is stalinist

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

its definitely stalinist i was there when Sunak said "I love Stalin". biden-supervised

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[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 32 points 11 months ago

I forgot what website I was on for a second and had a stroke reading this

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 70 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'll serve crack before I serve this country

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago

I'll serve this country... on a platter to its enemies!! Gottem!!!

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 68 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Getting that youth vote

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago

It's a funny cycle. Neolibs do things that hurt young people, so young people don't vote for them, so neolibs do things to hurt young people, and the cycle continues forever

[–] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago

Hes never had to think about that before lol all he had to do was wait for the lettuce to rot

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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 63 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Something happened in the Anglosphere that made baby boomers somehow despise their successors. Moreso than the usual grumbling, but not particularly antagonistic contradictions between young and old throughout history.

I know in Italy there’s a bit more cohesion between young and old, and in Japan there’s a celebration when young people come of age and start taking on responsibilities. Both are imperialist, capitalist nations but at least are semi-normal about that.

It started with millennials being the media’s favorite whipping boys, and then it just doubled down with gen Z as the respective governments practically conspired to make everyone’s 20s be as horrible and boring as humanly possible.

[+] footfaults@hexbear.net 50 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Grew up being beaten into little work machines by a generation of fucked up ww2 vets, and now that newer generations are allowed to be people they're making their (justified, but not our fault) jealousy everyone else's problem

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Grew up being beaten into little work machines by a generation of fucked up ww2 vets

kind of the exact opposite, boomers were raised in front of the TV at the peak of empire with the (later met) expectation that they would have a job that could pay for a house and family

they will never forgive us for that

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's the intersection of peak material wealth and minimum emotional wealth. An incredible formula for boomer brain. Boomer children were on the forefront of multi-room and multi-bedroom homes being available to nearly everyone, and their parents were like oh cool I never ever have to see my kids

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I hate to be a crude materialist about this, but it's really the lead poisoning......that stuff was everywhere, an entire generation mass poisoned by one of the most insidious neurotoxins known to humankind, and the older they get, the more the literal brain damage manifests itself in more destructive and antisocial ways

I knew about lead poisoning growing up, but a few years ago after looking into the new research on lead exposure, I think the scale and true scope of the catastrophe has never been fully accounted for, imagine a scenario where hundreds of millions of people unknowingly imbibed a substance that would render them into borderline sociopaths with poor impulse control? Well that shit happened and it went on for decades

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[–] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago

As time goes on, I think the capitalist machine just requires more and more sections of the population to "other", to blame for the failing state of the world. Divert attention away to anyone but the richoids.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 61 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

NATO is fighting Russia to the last

~~Ukrainian~~

~~EU citizen~~

Brit

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wtf critical support for NATO

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

Fr that list got better as it went down lmfao

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

Next up: Canadians awooga

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 57 points 11 months ago (4 children)

There has to be a point where people stop being polite to these monsters.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 47 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We will make no excuses for the unpoliteness

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

😠

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago

😠

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[–] someone@hexbear.net 47 points 11 months ago

The bank accounts that never have savings because young British adults are paid poverty wages as the norm, and the drivers licenses for cars they can't afford to buy and maintain?

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

rishi "the contradiction intensifier" sunak strikes another blow at british capitalism

Death to America

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[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago

-10000 social creidt poipts

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago

glasses-on FIGHT AND DIE IN UKRAINE

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is good for Bitcoin

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[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oi! Nice loiscense yew got der, would be a shame if anything happened to it.

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In totalitarian North Vuvuzela...

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

sounds great for tax collection.

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago

kill-em-all service guarantees citizenship!

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago

worst country on planet earth

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So the UK has a draft?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Conscription in UK ended in 1963 and UK cannot maintain even their current small army and are having reductions from time to time. I think it's more of an unpaid labor draft.

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[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago

Cutting off things that are required to live under capitalism for refusing to join the country's warcrime army? Why isn't the media calling this authoritarian?

[–] Yor@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

like this can't be popular even with tories right?

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just throw kids in jail if they refuse to cooperate with being press-ganged into being your soldiers. Every other shitty conscription scheme does that. Why the bizarre invention of new punishments?

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