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[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 193 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I've never played a Baldur's Gate game before, but I feel compelled to buy this one just to send a message to other developers that it pays to treat your fans with respect.

[–] JeffCraig@citizensgaming.com 61 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Man, BG games are really some of the best! Give it a play!

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[–] Resol@lemmy.world 111 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Buy the game. That's it. You bought everything you need.

That is what I miss seeing in games.

[–] cameron@compuverse.uk 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would like games to arrive as a single complete package, but I was relatively fond of expansion packs from games like RollerCoaster Tycoon.

They took the game you already had, and pretty much doubled it, they were fantastic!

Far better than any modern DLC for sure.

[–] ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Expansion packs are the grandparents of DLC. They took something great and corrupted it to try and wring us for all we're worth.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 81 points 2 years ago (16 children)

I mean yeah but gamers keep supporting shitty companies that provide the exact opposite in record numbers so we don't get stuff like this much anymore.

[–] Stahlreck@feddit.ch 29 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This isn't "gamers". It affects pretty much everything for everyone. People these days have no backbone anymore. Everything just has to be easy and convenient and going against greedy practices is not convenient so companies can push the limits.

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[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because psychological manipulation is more effective than competence and honesty.

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[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 77 points 2 years ago (7 children)

The fact that the best marketing for games these days is just: "Don't be a greedy bastard" really says something about the industry

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[–] TwystedKynd@lemmy.world 69 points 2 years ago

This used to be the way with all games. You had one version. It was one game and everyone got the same thing. All the additional stuff is just a normalized scam.

[–] iByteABit@lemm.ee 50 points 2 years ago

This statement alone works better than any advertisement they could have made

[–] WheatleyInc@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (8 children)

People would stop putting micro transactions in games if users stopped paying for them.

[–] DudeBro@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I might be wrong, but aren't whales the target demographic for microtransactions? It's not like the majority of players are buying them. It's a "vocal" minority that make the business model viable via insane spending habits and the rest of us just have to deal with it.

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[–] Riplikash@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's true of lots of predatory behavior and doesn't excuse it. Even if 90% of people don't use them, the whales make it worth it. People with addictive personalities or so much money that it just means nothing to them. And we all suffer for it.

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[–] ja2@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The same could be said of literally every single product that magically became way more expensive post pandemic for no justifiable reason.

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[–] JeffCraig@citizensgaming.com 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm really glad a developer that actually cares about BG made this game. I'm not sure how much more I can take of ruined classics.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This is the right way, but also it's entirely ridiculous that it has to be said.

If I owned a small grocery store chain, and I had a website FAQ, it would be weird if it said, "Will my kids be taken by strangers and trafficked out of the country while I shop?" And even if the answer was, "No. We firmly believe you should remain in possession of your children at all times and no one else, so that you can enjoy your family." it would still be weird that we were talking about it in the first place - because yes, that's nice and all, but it shouldn't even be an issue worth discussing.

[–] maccam912@programming.dev 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It shouldn't have to be said, true, but if other grocery shops let this happen, and in fact designed the grocery store to make kidnapping easier, I would love to see it called out on your website.

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[–] focusedkiwibear@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (8 children)
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[–] ug0bed@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

Fair play to them, but it’s kind of crazy that just delivering an enjoyable experience for your customer is something to be lauded in the gaming industry…

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago

starts game

sees thing

rolls perception

touches thing

party had died

"Just like I remember!"

[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Just make out of game purchases like Paradox.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I didn't even know about this. This is awesome, but the last thing I'd like to know is does it have predatory online requirements or can you play offline and not be forced to log in to play?

If it ticks that box I'll buy this.

Edit: found it in the FAQ, yes you can!

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (6 children)

What are they talking about? Yes they do: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2378500/Digital_Deluxe_Edition_DLC/

Mind you, I am not even mad, because they are extra superflous items from DOS2, so whatever, but they definitely have at least dlc for in game items. I guess that isn't really technically an in game purchase in the same way a dark pattern loot box is, but also in a single player game it is pretty much the same thing.

I am really supportive and happy for what Larian has done, but I think it is kind of naive for them to be beating their chest about this. Wizards of the Coast will one day probably force them to release monetized items, or charge for extra modules. I don't think they will be unfair about it, but come on.

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[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Let's hope they keep it this way for future games! I am not sure why this game got so much attention, games like this normally never draw this big of a crowd but I am happy it is. I am sad because I have to wait a month until the ps5 version drops but then again I'm also glad I am not waiting for the Xbox version either! It will definitely be a day one purchase just to support them as much as possible. Hope they sell enough to continue doing what they want.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

The last DnD-based AAA game was like 15 years ago? People have been craving for this kind of game for years and had to satisfy themselves with remakes and ports until now.

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[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children)
[–] Chozo@kbin.social 50 points 2 years ago (19 children)

That's not really "DLC" in the conventional sense, that's a deluxe edition. You're not getting new content, just some bonus items for the base game, but a good chunk of what you get is actually outside of the game entirely (soundtrack, artbook, D&D character sheet).

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[–] Kalistia@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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