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Ilhan Omar's daughter suspended from university over pro-Palestine activism
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Anti-Palestinian sentiment in institutions is strong and must be fought, but most of the situations cited here are not about Hamas not being the 'perfect victim'.
So who is going to stand up for the Palestinians? Is it Genocide Joe that just blocked recognition for a Palestinian state after half a year of Genocide and the entire world turning against israel? Are you going to save the Palestinians?
Put people in a concentration camp for 20+ years, completely ignore their suffering and peaceful protests, and when they finally fight back go "Oooh that's bad! They didn't do it perfectly!".
If you want to deny Hamas that's fine. Then tell me, who else is fighting for Palestinians. How is it going in the West Bank without Hamas?
"Who will stand up for the Palestinians, if we don't simp for Islamofascists?"
It's funny how your kind always lands on "NOT GOOD ENOUGH" whenever liberals are involved, but "Critical support for holsum pro-genocide chungus 😊" whenever authoritarians are involved.
Couldn't you turn that around on yourself? I mean, I've heard plenty of people claim that we shouldn't let a little thing like support for genocide deter us from voting for biden.
I didn't realize Hamas was running in a FPTP election in which the other viable party was also a supporter of genocide. Here I thought they hadn't had elections in almost two decades in Gaza while Hamas has squeezed every last ounce of political independence from the local institutions. Silly me.
I didn't realize biden has to support genocide. Mighty convenient for that lover of genocide to have the other guy be worse, must be one reason why the democrats helped trump be the republican nominee in the first place. Here you are helping them out with their brilliant strategy while thinking democrats will ever improve things. Why would they bother when they have an infinite supply of worse candidates to run against?
Do I have to break out the polls again? Or do you just not understand what 'democracy' means? "Democracy" doesn't mean "What I agree with, and the more I agree with it, the more democratic it is".
... how many Republican candidates, do you think, would be better or even equal to Biden on the issue?
Please. Regale me.
"Wow, I can't believe that the candidate who won the Dem primary (or presumed she was going to win even before she did) wanted the weakest possible candidate as opposition! She should have fought for the STRONGEST candidate to oppose her to emerge from the GOP primary!"
It would be great if you could do something other than parrot the talking points of your fellow fascists.
These polls?: https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/majority-disapprove-israeli-action-gaza.aspx
I see you missed the point in my post where having the republican party as an excuse means nothing will ever improve. Nice job defending this system even after having it spelled out for you. Genocide is unacceptable, full stop.
If you're funding fascists, you get fascists. It's not a risk worth taking, but democrats are either brain-dead morons or they don't mind fascism because it gives them an excuse to never improve anything. Either way, they keep doing it: https://nypost.com/2022/09/12/democrats-spend-53m-to-boost-far-right-gop-candidates/
Trump wasn't the weakest candidate at all in 2016. He promised changed in an election year where people were hungry for change. Meanwhile galaxy brain Hillary promised more of the same, insisting that the status quo was fine. Oh look, another mistake democrats keep committing, the geniuses that they are.
You're calling me a fascist yet you defend genocide.
Disapproval of the Israeli response is not the same as support for removing support from Israel
Yes, that's why nothing has ever improved. Thanks. Great talk. 10/10 for illiteracy in modern history.
Right, so mind reminding me why you're so eager to have a genocide in the US?
There wasn't a non-fascist going to win the GOP's primary, unless you're eager to play apologist for even MORE Christofascists. Which, honestly, wouldn't surprise me at this point.
lmao
He lost the popular vote to Hillary fucking Clinton.
I don't think you can get much weaker than that.
I'm defending genocide because... I don't want a genocide in the USA.
That's a curious definition of defending genocide, but I suppose fascists aren't known for their attachment to the meaning of words.
Actually yeah, which is why obama continued bush's surveillance state, bailouts for the rich, and wars. It's why biden continued trump's trade war, border policies, and sucking israel's dick.
I'm doing this by thinking biden should listen to his constituents and stop the genocide? Apparently you think biden is wise in ignoring voters so that he can continue supporting genocide. Here's a win-win for you: biden stops supporting genocide abroad AND we don't have a genocide in the US because he'd gain voter approval. Easiest victory of all time, but you're so supportive of genocide and democrats are fond of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. By the way, I provided poll numbers to support my argument, what happened to the poll numbers you claimed you had?
There isn't a non-fascist republican because democrats intentionally let them be the worst they can be so they can look good by comparison to that extremely low bar. The overton window is being pulled to the right by republicans and pushed to the right by democrats. Again, democrats actively support the worst of the worst: https://nypost.com/2022/09/12/democrats-spend-53m-to-boost-far-right-gop-candidates/
and you fall for it.
Doesn't matter when he became president. Democrats could've nominated Bernie Sanders, who polled better against trump: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/may/29/bernie-sanders/bernie-sanders-says-he-polls-better-against-donald/
But of course the democrats just had to have their queen as the nominee, so they snatched defeat from the jaws for victory yet again.
So you could stop genocide both here and abroad by pressuring biden to listen to his constituents but you think it's best to ignore voters. Don't be surprised if your brilliant strategy doesn't work.
Imagine being this privileged, lmao.
Ah, yes, it's the fault of the Democrats that Republican voters love fascism. This is the exact kind of bootlicking bullshit that fascist apologists have pulled since the 1930s.
Nice, glad you didn't read the poll I linked to which quite clearly laid out that a majority of American voters do not support a harder line on Israel (as absurd as that is), great talk.
We're done here.
My favorite part is the complete inability to perform basic math on how 21%+16% is, actually, a larger number than 23%. But fascists have never been known for their intellect.
You say, as you dismiss the 30,000+ deaths and counting in Palestine.
The same 1930s where the capitalists were all on board with fascism because they'd rather that than the communism that was rising thanks to the many grievances of the people? You know, like how the democrats promote fascism over the socialist programs that Bernie promoted? Democrats fought harder against Bernie than Trump. You couldn't have picked a worse example to make your point. Congratulations, you played yourself.
Your poll talks about hamas vs israel. That's like asking if you approve of osama bin laden or the Iraq war. Further down on your link, it asks if people think biden is striking the right balance on israel and the highest option is "not sure" at 40% with the second option being "favoring the israelis too much" at 22%. Another case of you playing yourself. Also, your poll was from back in february and more and more people are seeing israel for the genocidal apartheid regime that it is. My poll is more clear in its question of asking about israel's actions in Gaza and the majority clearly do not approve. My poll is from march.
You're done playing yourself? Congratulations! I just hope you can find it in your heart to stop simping for genocide and stop defending a strategy where the democratic party actively promotes fascists to make themselves look better.
There were even more civilian deaths in the Russian wars against Chechnya, yet communists were all on board.
That's terrible, but I don't know what that has to do with this discussion.
They say, implying the US president could have stopped it with one phone call, or simply stopped giving the weapons to the people doing the killing.
It's amazing the leaps of logic these assholes will go to trying to rationalize still being the good guys while directly causing a genocide.
Self-righteousness is a hell of a drug.
"Liberals involved" = liberals supporting Genocide instead of fighting against it.
And then flipping reality and saying the resistance is actually the Genocidal ones.