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Freed Israeli hostages erupted in anger during a tense meeting on Tuesday with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, saying that they were terrified they would be killed by Israeli airstrikes on Gaza instead of their Hamas captors.

"We were in tunnels, terrified that it would not be Hamas, but Israel, that would kill us, and then they would say Hamas killed you," the woman from the southern Israeli village of Nir Oz near the Gaza border said

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (24 children)

Do you have a good resource for that? All I can find are unsubstantiated claims and refutations of said claims. With the only thing that might hold any water being speculation that israeli police and hamas may have caught civilians in the crossfire but even that is pretty weak and I can't find anything other than "it probably happened because it almost always happens when police open fire".

https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/viral-post-seeks-to-change-festival-massacre-narrative/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/nov/17/stew-peters/no-this-video-doesnt-show-israeli-military-killing/

The world is already full of enough misinformation. So how about we don't shit on the memory of murdered civilians and use them to build a narrative to benefit politicians?

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (20 children)

speculation that israeli police and hamas may have caught civilians in the crossfire

The releasee is quoted in the article linked as saying they were fired on by IDF helicopters after being taken hostage.

Obviously assigning motive is going to be speculation. Was the IDF deliberately killing hostages? Seems unlikely to me. Deliberately careless with the lives of hostages when trying to kill Palestinians? Based on the looser use of force rules we've seen from the IDF that seems perfectly possible.

how about we don’t shit on

shhhh come now. Don't feed the internet outrage machine. Better to keep a neutral tone so you don't shut down rational argument.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The IDF has a public policy not to allow hostage-taking and even killing the hostage if necessary. It’s controversial but not a new policy.

[–] brambledog@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The link you gave said this was a military policy used.on military, not civilians.

It also appears they stopped doing it a decade ago, according to your source.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you read the link there’s a controversy on whether they stopped at all. Many of the families of hostages and the released hostages have accused the Israeli government of trying to kill them.

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