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[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago

Of course I remember the “meme faith” thing that was happening in 2016 and it seemed like it really worked. All those alt right pepe memes infesting everything and they picked Trump as the focus

Oh I'm talking about waay waaaay before 2016. I'm talking 2008. They were looking for a new hitler.

What Trump did was unprecedented

I can't agree because there is evidence of Trump talking about running for office since the 90's. We should have seen this coming but any time it was talked about, it was laughed off and ignored.

I live in a liberal and wealthy area of a red state. I make good money, live comfortably, and have a diverse community of people available to me. All sorts of recreation, social events, etc.

I live in a liberal area of a blue state. I make okay money and live kind of comfortable but not really and I miss out on a lot of things due to racism and having to combat culture wars because of who I am as a person.

So I'm feeling the disintegration. I get the brunt of it dealt to me first hand. People fucking hate me because I am who I am.

That being said -

Economic reforms. Large investments in infrastructure. A real Green New Deal - trillions of dollars spent building all sorts of modern infrastructure would require lots of labor. Build high speed rail all over America. Start programs that give companies incentive to return manufacturing jobs to the US.

I agree with this. I agree with raising minimum wage and universal healthcare - I'm even for universal basic income. I agree with a lot of what you are saying and I think it would help a lot of people.

Seriously, it’s not a coincidence fascism came about right after the Great Depression

I get that too. It's history and you can't argue against it.

But I'm telling you about a current enemy and its one I know very well - in my early 20s you could easily have lumped me in with that same group of people. I'm not anymore but I definitely was.

And even when I was growing as a person and slowly removing those ideologies on my own from myself.. I still interacted with people who are never going to stop being that way.

I don't think its all insecurity. I think some of it is just as simple as pure hatred. I'm telling you. They get off it. I don't know how anyone would change their mind when they totally want someone to go out of their way to try and change their mind. They want someone like you to try and get rid of their insecurity so they can laugh at the fact that you tried.

How do you change someone like that? How do you help someone like that?

The only reason I changed is cause I chose to do that on my own.