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[–] rab@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

None of those are even close to as effective as not having kids though.

I'm not even talking carbon footprint entirely though, I mean why would you bring a human into a world that is almost surely over.

[–] mr_stevenson_ii@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Exactly. If you have a heart, you don’t generate an innocent being to suffer and to unavoidably increase the suffering.

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yup. I'm a 1994 kid and both my parents have apologized for bringing me into the world. Back then things weren't so bleak though and they were rich at the time too so I can't fault them.

So proud that my parents are intelligent and are discouraging me and my siblings from having children. The family name dies with us.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Funny to hear that, because like exactly the same here.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's humanities disease though. Survive at all costs. Getting metro 2033 vibes right now.

[–] rab@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago

We are parasites since we discovered agriculture

Mother earth is correcting it now though, as she always has

[–] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If the world is almost surely over, then you won't have a heart. These are the concerns of someone who thinks that life will go on for a long time.

[–] mr_stevenson_ii@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m not surprised that you feel defensive.

[–] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm not surprised either. I doubt anyone here failed to feel the concern that we have a long life ahead, allowing hearts to remain and children to suffer.

But is it realistic? On what basis do you think we have such longevity ahead of us? Perhaps the claim that the world is about to end is the more viable conclusion?

[–] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have brought two wonderful people to this world because I don't underestimate humanity's ability to understand, adapt and overcome the challenges ahead. Humans have lived and thrived through much tougher times in history. A defeatist attitude sure won't help.

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can understand your viewpoint since you already have children. I apologize if my words were harsh, btw

[–] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Nothing to apologize for. I understand that some people, particularly those who are young, environmentally conscious and lacking financial stability, look at the world and think that it's all going to shit.

I'm old enough to remember the cold war and the fear we had of nuclear holocaust and nuclear winter. It's just an example, there have been doomsday headlines every day for as long as I've lived and every single time humans have prevailed.

I'm not saying climate change isn't serious, it is very serious. I'm saying our children and grandchildren will, for the most part, live good lives. Better than our lives in some ways, worse in others, just like it's always happened. People adapt.