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Blue No Matter Who?: Jeffries Slammed for 'Gutless' Refusal to Endorse Zohran Mamdani
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USSR supported the creation of Israel. And the first government of Israel was democratic socialist. The country used to be known to be quite left until about the late 1980s.
The country was founded as a colonial ethno supremacist project and its founders said their biggest allies will be the antisemites on the premise that they will rid their countries of undesirable Jews.
There was never any form of democracy in Israel, there can't be. It's built on the subjugation and erasure of the indigenous population which has and continues to outnumber them. Palestinians have never had equal rights, and most of us are spread across the world because we never got our right of return granted.
That's not democracy. You're spreading a bullshit narrative.
You can have racist democracies so long as you deny citizenship based on race. The USA has been a democratic republic since the beginning despite having restricted the vote along racial, gender, and at one point wealth.
Israel is a flawed democracy.
No one wasn't arguing that Israel is a democracy.
I understand you have personal stake on the subject and rest assured most people support Palestine, but realise you are being extremely passionate and making straw man and saying more bollocks.
Are you sure?
The party that ruled in Israel was democratic socialist.
I don't know what is with downvotes for stating facts. Either people don't know what democratic socialism is, or socialists probably want to forget that bit of history that Israel used to be left and don't want to be associated with it.
Your definition of left is off, that's why you're being downvoted. Israel was established on over 500 destroyed Palestinian villages and ethnic cleansing of half the population with the open intention to colonize the entire land.
Read some non colonial history books before you complain about Internet points.
And the Bolsheviks are authoritarians and still considered left. North Korea call themselves Democratic People's Republic of Korea and considered left as well despite being ruled by a dynasty. What's your point? Do you even know what democratic socialism means? Lemmy, of all people should know, what that means. Sorry but your personal bias is clouding your judgement and reading comprehension.
"considered left"
Yeah, by ignorant quick to adopt the narrative of the oppressor types like you.
My point is clear, you can't call a system that gives all rights and privileges exclusively to a minority while openly oppressing the majority Democratic socialist.
How can you have social ownership of anything when over half the population isn't allowed that ownership? Do you know what the words you're using mean?
It's almostas if agreeing to peace strengthened the right.
Not sure what you mean.
The repeated sneak invasions by Arab countries, the last being the Yom Kippur War, made the left, in the eyes of voters, is insufficient in protecting Israel. It helped paved way for the Israeli right to come to power. After all, Bibi's administration is all about occupying the frontiers "to protect" Israel; same excuse really that any settler societies have provided to commit atrocities.
The fact is that the right has gotten strongerthe more stable their relationships got with other nations which is the opposite of what you would expect.