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Blue No Matter Who?: Jeffries Slammed for 'Gutless' Refusal to Endorse Zohran Mamdani
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When liberals tell me, a trans person, that I need to vote for militant transphobe Gavin Newsom after he's handed the 2028 Democratic primary victory, I'm going to tell them to shove it up their ass.
There's no nice way to say this, so mods delete if necessary. It's an election about numbers and progressives will now have to be recognized after the last loss and the success of Mamdani. That is some progress. But the issues of trans people will not be a deciding factor due to the ratio. I hope you get all the care and rights you deserve, but this doesn't sway the vote against literal dictatorship.
Trans people themselves are few. People who care about trans rights are not.
Care enough to change their profile picture or care enough to do something?
You absolutely should tell those liberals off, all the way to the concentration camp.
Do morons like you not realize you are the reason for this mess? You're the reason the Democrats are shit? Stop applauding them for doing the bare minimum, join the people who want more from them.
It does not bode well for you when you call your moral and intellectual superior a moron. I am the reason that Democrats are shit? Lmao you should be in prison just for thinking that let alone writing it in a public space. You are a know nothing witless parasite that doesn’t understand the first thing about the world. Come back to talk when you can learn some respect for your superiors.
lol insane neckbeard energy
“You are the reason that Democrats suck”
“Lmao”
“Insane neckbeard energy”
what the fuck did u just say 2 ur superior
At least you have a sense a humor. Most right wingers don’t.
Shove it up your ass.
Go fuck yourself, Republican shitbag.
What will the ass-shoving accomplish?
Not my problem. You advocate taking my rights away, you don't get my vote. What kind of arrogant son-of-a-bitch would think they're entitled the votes of those whose rights they are dismantling? The sheer hubris of that is despicable.
What do you plan to do instead?
I'm focusing my efforts on helping people in my own community, the people folks like Newsom and yourself are leaving for dead. I'm quite involved in political and activist circles. But I will be damned if I vote for someone that wants to take away my rights.
If you don't have any red lines, you're no different than the literal historical Nazis. They also thought they were doing what they did for the greater good. The road to Hell is paved with the lesser of two evils. You have to have some standards, some lines that cannot be crossed. Otherwise there is no end to what evil you will endorse. You'll find yourself working as a concentration camp guard, after somehow convincing yourself you're taking the less evil path. After all, who better to be a concentration camp guard than yourself? You're not hateful yourself, better you than an actual militant racist, right? Why shouldn't you work as a camp guard? It's for the greater good.
I'd be interested to hear what you plan to do when the Democratic blackmail stops working?
It already has. They're still going anyway.
This is your strategy? Vote for us or your life will be hell?
Vote for us, we won't do anything for you, but surely you don't want your life ruined otherwise, right?
Good job.
All I’m going to say is, in the general election, don’t do what many protestors of the war in Gaza did because that did become a deciding factor in giving Trump Michigan.
This is a flawed understanding. Many of the Arab voters in Michigan were not solid Democrats to begin with. Unlike the racist notion that brown skin means Democratic votes, the people inside that skin have a range of views, just like any human. Just pointing at the other side and saying it's worse fails when voters didn't think the other side is worse. The party has to win their votes, and aiding the war machine massacring their relatives is for some reason a poor way to do that.
Anti occupation and genocide people didn't make Harris lose , dems and Harris incompetency and the two party system made trump win
Shove it up your ass.
In fighting is why Trump won and is why the left will never accomplish anything. I hope Mamdani wins and he is the catalyst to reshaping the Democrat party so they actually will put up a real progressive like Bernie and not someone who is anti trans. However, letting the Republicans rat fuck our country another 4 years isn’t something I’m going to support in 2028.
If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are absolutley supporting rat-fucking our country for the next 4-years. Just like you have been since you were old enough to vote for Clinton.
If you were living in 1930s Germany, you would have signed up to be a member of the Nazi party. Don't kid yourself, you personally absolutely would have done it. Maybe you wouldn't have been one of those actually enlisting in the SS. But you absolutely would have been one of those that joined the Nazi party to keep their job. Do you have any idea how many regular Germans did that, just to keep their ordinary civilian jobs? They convinced themselves that it was for the greater good. After all, let's say you're a judge or college professor. If you don't join the Nazi party, then an actual militant Nazi might get your job instead. Wouldn't it be better to just join the Nazi party, keep your job, and just try not to do anything too evil in your role? Joining the Nazi party is the lesser of two evils!
When you have no red lines, there is no limit to how deep into Hell you will fall.
Comparing me to Nazis isn’t helping your argument nor is it a good analogy. At this point, I doubt we will even have free or fair elections again. If it comes to a Civil War 2, then I’ll lay my life on the line to protect people like you from fascism. I am not afraid to fight for a better future.
Just not at the ballot box, where it costs you nothing and is literally the least you can do.
How is Newsom transphobic? Aside from his stance on trans athletes, I've never really heard anything on him to suggest otherwise, quite the opposite honestly.
This isn't about sports and it never was. Turns out when you're willing to give in to one aspect of unscientific bigotry (the trans sports moral panic), you'll be willing to give into others. And yes, opposing trans athletes in sports is fundamentally transphobic. Notice you never see transphobes like Newsom proposing narrowly targeted regulations that only address sports where some large and clear advantage has been proven. You never see transphobes like Newsom proposing that trans athletes in individual sports be given some handicap that would cancel out an advantage they've been scientifically proven to have. Instead it's all bigoted blanket bans that are no different from bans that used to exclude black people from whites-only leagues. They never start from a position of fairness and compassion and try to intervene as little as necessary. It's all about just keeping the filthy trannies out of polite society. These bans prohibit trans women from women's gymnastics, for fuck's sake. So yes, if you support blanket trans sports bans, you are a transphobic bigot. I'm sorry, but you can't just hand waive it away with, "well aside from this example of unambiguous bigotry, I don't see any bigotry here." You might as well be saying, "well aside from this person being a registered member of the KKK, I don't see any evidence that this person is racist."
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/newsoms-bizarre-interview-with-maga
I wonder if you'll continue to hold this stance after Trump starts putting trans people into concentration camps?
It'll be Democrats, or a continuation and escalation of what's happening now. If we have a fair election at all.
There is an easy solution to this. DON'T NOMINATE NEWSOME. Transphobia isn't an inherent stance for the liberal party. We can just nominate a candidate that doesn't proactively shit on civil rights to, for some reason, court conservatives who are never going to vote for us.
Shove it up your ass.
My question was not rhetorical.
It's unscientific that AMAB individuals are stronger than AFAB individuals?
not for kids until they’ve hit puberty… there’s no significant muscle mass or endurance difference between males and females until after puberty hits
so yes, in context of kids sports it’s absolutely unscientific
there’s possibly a conversation to be had about teen sports BUT:
Well, yes, I did mean teen sports and previously exposed to high levels of testosterone athletes.
We know from steroid research athletes who train on steroids and come off them for tests still get a strength bonus in competition since they don't lose all the benefits the second they stop using them (because they continue training to maintain)
It's not an imagined problem. Lia Thomas ranked 554th in 200 freestyle as a male and won 500 freestyle after transition.
She only lost 4-7% from her previous times, while women on average are 10 slower than men. So she went from unremarkable to top tier. The reason is she kept more muscle from male puberty than a woman who didn't go through it would be able to train.
It's not an insurmountable lead since she didn't win every event, but someone who had better times before transition would be able to post even better times after.
well then there’s 2 parts here
adult athletes: nobody is really politically talking about this from what i can tell… the conversation is all about kids sports, because that’s the only thing that politics has any power to control
teen sports: okay, well again as i said in my post, this is a non-issue… why preemptively bar a whole class of people for an issue that just isn’t actually happening?
applies to all cases here: you seem to think transitioning is something people would just do to win a game… i really dont think that’s actually the case (and id argue your lia thomas example kinda proves that: nobody is transitioning to win, otherwise we’d see men ranked 50th, 70th, etc transitioning and winning)
so, what, you’re trans therefore you’re just not allowed to play sports any more?
but that’s not even relevant really… in the context that matters politically - kids sports - it’s absolutely an imagined problem
and if we were more accepting of people being trans without repercussions, maybe people would start transitioning before puberty and then, again, this wouldn’t be a problem… the problem here is transphobia causing people to fight against being themselves because of societal pressure
Easy solution: if you're trans and you transition after puberty, go into the open division. There is actually no such thing as men's sports.
Lia Thomas was a college athlete at the time. Why are you specifically saying kids sports? Every right wing talking point is grown "men" playing in women's sports. You're not addressing the other side's argument. Nobody ever complained about 1st graders
Swing and a miss.
Not an argument
Ah yes, putting his transphobic af stance aside and going "oh yea by removing transphobia, he's not transphobic"