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[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's up to what one considers normal in a given situation. I think I was quite clear about how I was using the word "normal" in my comment there. If I down a sixpack of beer, then I think most would agree that my blood alcohol content would be above normal, no matter how much that is to be expected. Yes, it would be normal for a person who just drank six beers, but not normal for humans as a whole. Oh and the amount of microplastics in both our brains might as well be considered "normal", given that the world is as fucked as it is.

Now, the argument can obviously made that being vaccinated is a lot more normalized than being drunk is, but since she's talking about the concept of vaccination as a whole, I think the current standards of normalcy are not what she's using. By the standards she might be argued to be using, it's a lot more normal to die of polio. In the history of our species, it's quite abnormal to be able to talk to people on the other side of the planet or to live past 60 or to get vaccinated.

I fully agree that the tweet is misinformation at best. I've just seen way too many of these fuckers weasel their way out on technicalities when confronted about it.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your suggestion of a baseline unvaccinated value is worthless in this context, I think my analogy makes that clear.

If you were comparing two different vaccines for the same virus, and one had an initial massive increase in antibody levels that then fell off, and the other just showed an increase with no falloff, that would be a meaningful comparison.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Nobody is comparing two different vaccines here. The original statement is about vaccinations as a whole, in which case the only relevant baseline is the one without vaccines.