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"Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier," Zelenskyy said in a Telegram message early Saturday.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy defiantly declared Saturday that his countrymen “will not give their land to occupiers,” after Donald Trump suggested that a peace deal would include some “swapping” of territories with Russia.

“The answer to Ukraine’s territorial question is already in the constitution of Ukraine,” Zelenskyy said in a message on Telegram early Saturday. “No one will and no one can deviate from it. Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier.”

His comments came after Trump announced on Truth Social that a long-awaited meeting with Vladimir Putin had been scheduled for next Friday in Alaska.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Now we are spying who has downvoted? Cool.

when it comes to calling out people who disagree that Russia should fuck off, I'll call out Nazi supporting scum all day.

Russia does not need to save face because they are the ones that invaded illegally. to the world their face is rotting and half gone leaving a bleached white skull. you know, like the ones on the SS uniforms.

[–] npdean@lemmy.today -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Now Russians are Nazis lol. USA has invaded more countries than any other modern country but Russia gets called a Nazi and not them.

How does Russia not need to save face? They have to prove to their public and allies thaf the war was worth it and they gained something. Same thing with Ukraine that defending and fighting for so long was not just to end up giving land. NATO needs to maintain the illusion of having the greatest military to ever exist.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  1. invading land that isn't part of Russia
  2. abducting citizens and sending them to concentration camps
  3. abducting children and feeding them into human trafficking rings across the globe
  4. military attacks against citizens
  5. continued attacks against Ukrainians calling them "Nazis"
  6. blowing up critical infrastructure that maintains public safety (the dam)
  7. planting explosives and holding nuclear engineers hostage at a nuclear waste site as a bargaining chip to threaten Ukraine

edit sorry, forgot some of the more heinous crimes because there are just so many

  1. bombing schools and killing children while they were at school
  2. bombing hospitals that were functioning as natal/infant care facilities
  3. bombing parks and shopping centers in an effort to kill civilians
  4. burning civilian victims in mass unmarked graves to remove evidence
  5. torturing POWs in ways that are cruel and unusual
  6. looting the bodies and homes of Ukrainians (who tf steals toilets???)

sounds like some pretty Nazi shit to me dude. at the very least it's the same shit terrorists do.

US has nothing to do with what Russia is doing to Ukraine, you bringing it up is a feeble attempt at distraction away from the crimes Russia is committing.

Let me paint a picture for you.

You're walking down the street with your family and a drunk Russian pulls out a gun in front of you and threatens you to give up your stuff. your mother and father take too long to respond and are both shot in the face. the Russian then calls over a couple of his friends who come over and take turns raping your mother's bloody corpse in front of you for several days. when they're finished, they shoot you in the stomach and take your shit then leave you for dead but not before you stab one of them in the balls.

several days later the Russians are apprehended and taken to court. the judge charges them with rape, desecration of a corpse, unlawful use of a handgun, theft, and unlawful detainment. they will spend the next 10 years in prison.

the judge then charges you with attempted murder for stabbing the one guy in the balls. your property is never returned, the deaths of your parents are never justified, and you will spend then rest of your life in prison.

when your lawyer asks about the double homicide charges, the judge says that he dropped them because everyone in this case was guilty and he's allowing the criminals to "save face". after all, they're already being charged with five other crimes.

is this your idea of justice?

never mind, your opinion is absolutely trash and I really couldn't give less of a shit.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They have to prove to their public and allies thaf the war was worth it

Yeah, all these bombed hospitals and kindergartens must be worth stealing some land.

Sound logic here.

[–] npdean@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am not saying it is worth it. I am saying they have to make it seem worth it.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do they now?

Thug came to your house, punched you in your face and raped your wife. You definitely should give him one room so it seems for him it was worth punching and raping.

[–] npdean@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are not understanding what I am saying. I am saying that Putin needs to explain to his country why the war is stopped and what was the benefit of it. Zelensky needs to show the same thing.

I am not talking about what they do about territories.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Putin needs to explain to his country why the war is stopped

🤣 Of course he does sweetie, just like he did why he attacked Ukraine.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Npdean is not saying this is what SHOULD happen, they are staying that's Putin's perspective.

It's not an endorsement of Russia. It's just an opinion on what Putin will or will not accept in any deal put before him

(At least that's how I'm reading this exchange)

Npdean, do you personally agree that Russia SHOULD fuck off back home immediately. That Ukraine not be made to give up a single bloody thing at all. And that this entire war is entirely Russia's fault and they bear all responsibility for this happening?

I'm asking because I'm assuming you would agree, but I obviously can't know that without you saying it

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

At least that's how I'm reading this exchange

No, just read the guy commenting history, there is more.

Quite a few Russian new accounts have been set up recently.