i mean praising the NYPD commisioner and shaking hands with those pigs is pretty alarming for me given that they're an occupying army who murder people constantly and beat the living shit out of anti-genocide protestors, but whatever. this impulse to justify the rightwards drift of DSA electeds no matter what has achieved so much in the past (look at AOC's stellar record for example), so what do i know.

And look at that fucking account lol

idc about the account you can watch the video or google his comments yourself

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago (3 children)

i mean praising the NYPD commisioner and shaking hands with those pigs is pretty alarming for me given that they're an occupying army who murder people constantly and beat the living shit out of anti-genocide protestors,

What did you expect him to do, give him a wedgie? I don’t even think any real leftist with ambition would go to war with the NYPD before even becoming mayor.

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

my issue is more that there are obvious and inherent flaws with the idea of "get socialists elected as Democrats" that are manifesting before our eyes, as they have done many times before, and that all the organising it took to get him to this point will end up being a counter-productive waste as well as legitimising the right wing of the DSA. like yeah we shouldn't be aiming to put socialists in positions where they have to smile and shake hands with pigs.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Socialists and many on this site can’t come to a consensus on what to do with the the police, look at the opinions on this very website during BLM.

Here he said something that essentially boils down to let’s cut back on police by saying ‘we need to make police less involved with things’.

yeah we shouldn't be aiming to put socialists in positions where they have to smile and shake hands with pigs.

Do we have guns? Are we aligned with paramilitary groups? No, we’re not even fucking close, so I think holding back on antagonizing one of the most powerful state backed militant groups before even gaining power is a good idea whether you’re a Democrat, DSA, or Communist

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

so we need to get guns and build paramilitary organisations, then, before messing in electoralism or anything else. for that we need to avoid legitimising electoralism, because people are going to choose that over armed action, because it's far easier and feels safer. maybe what's been going on in LA to counter the ICE raids would be worth learning from, rather than focusing on electing people to positions where they have to work with the police who support ICE.

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