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[–] Beacon@fedia.io 13 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Is there data showing speed cameras reduce anything other than people's wallets? I know that slower speeds reduce fatalities, but I'm unconvinced that speed cameras do

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The article says that even with just warnings speeding reduced by 31% on the monitored areas in general, and 64% on a specific stretch. So yeah they do reduce speeding, and like you said reducing speeding reduces accidents and fatalities.

NYC also did speeding cameras and are claiming a 94% reduction in speeding and an 14% reduction in injuries and fatalities

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago

I work in government in a city where cameras designed to detect license plates for active warrants, stolen vehicles, and vehicles from Amber/Silver alerts have been deployed. It was crystal-clear from Council that those were the only authorized uses as a condition of their installation.

Within a week, the police were using them to identify cars for other purposes.

[–] AbNormalHumanBeing@piefed.world 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

This paper seems to suggest so, but also mentions "Previous empirical work on this topic, which shows a diverse range of estimated effects [...]" - so it seems like other factors will play a role. (Disclaimer: I read only the abstract)

EDIT: Another paper seems to back up those finding.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

As much as I don’t belong in the community, the answer to that is to start reducing lane/intersections/roads until people start taking it seriously

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

As much as I don’t belong in the community

Why? You sound to me like you belong just fine.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 5 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Because I like driving. I just hate commuting and think surface and higher grade roads and parking is a blight and waste of space. I also believe in proper design. Cities are for people and should be people centric.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 11 hours ago

I’m totally of the belief that the fuck cars mentality isn’t incompatible with personally liking cars. If you recognize that forcing everyone’s lifestyle and community space to revolve around cars is unsustainable and undesirable then I’d say that’s basically it, with a bit of sensible road design to prioritize pedestrian safety sprinkled in.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 2 points 9 hours ago

That's exactly what all of us are for too. "Fuck cars" doesn't mean "eliminate all cars and all driving infrastructure". It means exactly what you said - cars and car infrastructure should be minimized in places where they aren't good to be.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Because I like driving.

I do too. I own multiple "fun" cars for things like autocross and off-roading. I just don't use any of them for commuting (my 'daily driver' is a bicycle).

Trust me when I say, folks like you belong here just fine.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

Meh I’ve met people in either this or the other fuckcars community who don’t believe in interim measures and anything short of tear up all the roads is car brained…

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

That's basically what everyone else thinks here too my friend, you'll fit right in.

I enjoy driving too, the little of it I actually do

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 13 hours ago

Really depends on where you put them, and if you couple them with other common sense changes like infrastructure redesigns and public outreach.