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[–] kadup@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (4 children)

does not involve technologically regressing.

The fallacy that technological progress is inherently good is simply flawed. You could say "instead of relying on Spotify, and instead of "technologically regressing", learn open source alternatives and host your own Jellyfin server!"

But what was wrong with "technologically regressing" exactly? A MP3, CD or even tape recording player will: always work, sound great, require zero user friction, never receive updates or security flaws, not depend on a convoluted self hosted setup.

Do you want to listen to music or impress Lemmy? There's absolutely no argument to be made that requires accepting all tech simply because it's tech.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's also a fallacy that technology always progresses. If technology from 25 years ago serves you better than technology from today, it's the superior technology.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago
[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Technological progress isn't inherently anything. It's just technological progress; an inevitability. Fighting against it is like fighting the laws of the universe, if not outright stupidly phobic.

What defines the "goodness" of technology is how people choose to use it.

Everything more said is just pointless philosophical fluff.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Technological progress isn’t inherently anything

Exactly. So arguing that "you shouldn't technologically regress" is meaningless.

Fighting against it is like fighting the laws of the universe

Not only is this not applicable to the argument at hand, given there's no law of nature that makes a CD player implode just because Spotify exists, but this statement is so bizarrely wrong it's almost hard to take the rest of the discussion seriously.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Exactly. So arguing that "you shouldn't technologically regress" is meaningless.

Did you lose track of your own argument?

You assumed that I meant technological progress is inherently good. I said technological progress isn't good or bad, just inevitable. That does not mean that technological regression isn't inherently bad.

And yes, the CD player did implode, figuratively, because Spotify exists. :)

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

There’s absolutely no argument to be made that requires accepting all tech simply because it’s tech.

False dichotomy and a stupid comic strip making a stupid point all the way down.

If we cared about this issue we would be pushing for the installation of representatives who want to ban planned obsolescence and systems that require you to have the newest, most expensive vehicles, appliances and gadgets. Our current entire government is subservient to and employed by companies that make billions on this manufactured consent to always "needing" to spend our labor on useless junk.

To say nothing of the inherent, massive problem that we made it legal to buy and own politicians.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah no. You just didn't understand the comic and made a stupid point. It happens.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Okay, ya'll kids keep arguing about "devices" while millions of people are forced to buy the newest phones so they can get their email and attend job interviews, while mountains of money get poured into politicians who are affording their fifth homes because Samsung pays them in wheelbarrows of cash to keep consumer protection agencies neutered or destroyed.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] kadup@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Calling somebody using a retro MP3 player "Amish 2.0" is as moronic as calling you a tech bro neuralink implanted Musk boy just because you're defending technological progress. Both would be equally ridiculous statements, but the difference is, you actually wrote the moronic comment.

[–] Jaded99@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

These technology phobes are the next generation who will be scammed out of their pension fund, inheritance or investments just like current boomers who refused to advance along with the world, and they deserve to be hacked, scammed, robbed because they refuse to keep learning.

Learn or get left behind.