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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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I feel like the people I interact with irl don't even know how to boot from a USB. People here probably know how to do some form of coding or at least navigate a directory through the command line. Stg I would bet money on the average person not even being able to create a Lemmy account without assistance.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 345 points 3 days ago (44 children)

The average person is becoming MORE technologically illiterate, not less. The era of growing up with a home computer that required fiddling and dial up, etc is over. People grow up with phones and iPads and kids come to school not knowing how to use a mouse.

[–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 108 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And for that reason alone I built a Linux PC for my 11 year old and told him to go to town figuring things out. (I supervise everything of course). Dude has been doing fantastic so far.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If he doesn't solve problems with chmod 777 then he's already more competent than the ops teams at my fortune 500 company

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Who's going to win?

SELinux+Seccomp+Containers...
Or the sysadmin with sudo and chmod.

Neither! It's whichever script kiddie gets lucky first.

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh, but you gotta drop a chmod nuke at least once to feel the terror having done something irreversible. As a bonus, you’ll also gain a brand new appreciation for snapshots.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

sudo chmod 000 / for security

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And it’s also so much faster than full disk encryption. Cool little trick the admins don’t want you to know.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago

You don’t even need to do it recursively:

sudo find / -path '/*/*' -prune -o -exec chmod 000 {} +

This is extremely fast.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Cool. I'm old enough that in middle school I begged my Mom to take to the mall to buy Linux. I got a Red Hat Linux CD-ROM pack from a store called Babbage's. I couldn't download the ISO on our modem and I don't remember if we even had a burner at that point.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I used to love going to Babbage’s in the mall. So many King’s Quest boxes….

[–] Fetus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

King’s Quest

Damn, that's a good hit of nostalgia!

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[–] NikolaTeslasPigeon@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I grew up starting my computer use having to navigate DOS just before windows 3.11 was released. I work in tech today and I feel like just knowing about a lot of the automated things we take for granted today has given me a little bit of an edge.

[–] griff@lemmings.world 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I had to walk to school in the snow ten miles, both ways uphill!

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] phonics@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] NikolaTeslasPigeon@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You mustn't have been paying attention, Lt Dan ain't got no legs, that doesn't preclude him from having feet

[–] ugo@feddit.it 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In DOS time I learned how to type quickle because I had to type in cd games cd keen keen as quickly as possible to minimise non-gaming time.

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[–] cryptTurtle@piefed.social 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So a friend of mine went to a convention to show off his gaming project. The kids there were trying to touch the monitors to play the game. They didn't grab the keyboard and mouse. They didn't touch the controller. They touched the monitor. People's framework of what a computer is and what it's made of is completely different than what it use to be

Reminds me of my senior teaching days 15 years ago. Solitaire, same.exe and saddam.exe and whack.exe soon had those oldies clicking, double clicking and dragging.

Didn't think then that the situation could reverse.

Same still exists on Android and is still a brain twister.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.kubilayerdogan.samegamel

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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

Hate to say it, but that technical literacy from having to operate computers the difficult way was a small blip in history. So things are just kind of going back to "normal."

Now, the only real natural entry into "computing" is gaming. Pretty much everything else has to come through formal education, which is largely myopic and boring.

Don't think I've even worked with a gen Z engineer yet. I assume they exist.

[–] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I have worked with a few gen z interns/fresh grads, and some younger millennials (I am a 1990 kid) and its interesting... Some of them have been very successful at passing the tests but have no mechanical aptitude at all. Some have been technically literate on first glance, then proven to be just confidently incorrect. In general though, it seems they just didn't grow up being interested in how things worked like I did. It could be isolated to my small sample size or it could be a general trend. They also don't seem to make connections across disciplines as easily either but again, that could just be a time in service thing at this point and not a generational trait.

I have not been super impressed with the new ones we get when we get them, some of them have been quick learners though and have impressed me with their adaptability. I am a huge proponent of proper mentorships or rotational programs and that is something that seems to get overlooked with younger grads in my experience.

One thing that really annoys me though, is that when prompted with something they don't know, they will spit out some randome bullshit rather than say they don't know. Saying I don't know is a completly acceptable answer as long as it is followed up with "but I will find out" or "can you help/explain it". Falling back to a first principle approach and talking through it is also valid but just making up some shit doesnt fly with me.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 2 points 2 days ago

I work in a completely different field, but you last paragraph mostly sounds to me like a typical young person entering the job market. There is this false sense og confidence, pride and know it all when graduating. I've just seen it a few too many times and I remember how confident and skilled I thought I was when I got out. At the same time, there's some anxiety and fear of doing a bad job and admitting fault may make you seem weak or unskilled and you want to impress the mentors and blah blah blah.

It is a bit funny to remember how I thought I was going to be helpful to colleagues who were way more experienced than me and then years later I'm being talked at by soon to be graduates who are trying to be helpful by sharing tips with me that I already do on the daily or don't do because I learned years ago they don't work. And when I try to give them advice or instructions it's like they just space out and hear what they think I mean and then do something completely different from what I ask of them, haha. I can't be mad at it, because it's just a part of learning and growing into your career. I think it would be a mistake to think that a newly graduated person in any field will be able to hit the ground running without any hiccups.

Maybe I'm just a bit of a softie when it comes to young people, but I just remember how eager I was when I was in their shoes and how incorrect my assumptions were when it came to what my elders expected of me. It all came gradually as I learned how to be a professional and how to solve tasks and find my rhythm. I imagine new generations on the market can't be much different from myself in that regard. 😊

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

is that when prompted with something they don't know, they will spit out some randome bullshit rather than say they don't know

This is just the majority of people, not specific to any generation. Our minds are predisposed to use inductive reasoning to explain the world around us. We see something new and our brain immediately begins to make inferences based on prior information we believe we know (I say it this way cause our memories are incredibly faulty) that we think is relevant or comparable.

It's essentially the Dunning Kruger effect: we think we know more than we do and, because of this, believe we can simply assume correctly about other things we know nothing about.

It's an incredibly bad habit that is supposed to be trained out of us through our education systems but we all know how incredibly faulty those systems are.

[–] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The education system as I lived through it in Texas was actively hostile to saying you didn't know, it was treated as being worse than being wrong or guessing. You can tell by the results allllllll around us.

[–] LOLseas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I'm a displaced Texan (living in Holland) and boy-howdy, what I would do for a #1 Whataburger meal right now...

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hadn’t realized what a gem “I don’t know” is until waaaaay too late. Saying “I don’t know” still often feels like a personal, albeit public, moral failure. Which is so dumb. But feels like it makes so much sense.

I think about the Lucky 10,000 XKCD comic all the time.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

You are absolutely right, but let's be clear here... it's not so much the lack of keyboard and mouse that's the problem... it's that these touchscreen devices don't let you actually DO anything. The devices you can use a keyboard and mouse on ALLOW you to play, customize, make mistakes, and learn. There's no reason a touchscreen device couldn't provide that too, but iOS and Android specifically forbid you from learning anything - that's a recipe for security holes! And THAT's the real skill they lack. Real competence means bending the endless possibilities to your will - not just being given 5 of the most common ones and being locked out of the rest.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why there now exists "iPad Kid".

That a friend I know of has a lot of his kids entirely on smartphones, while their family PC is hidden behind cobwebs and dust; if they want a document printed they just go out to some print shop.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

if they want a document printed they just go out to some print shop.

In fairness, it can be expensive to stock the holy water necessary to fend off the demons that inhabit all printers.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (5 children)
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[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm extremely young, I don't know how shit works, like at all. Because stuff works pretty well nowadays. Cannot imagine not knowing how to use a mouse. It could not be simpler imo. Can't remember a time that I didn't know lol

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 16 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Don't underestimate yourself. Just by posting here you have proven that you're more proficient than the average Joe.

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[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You should spend some time trying to teach CAD to students in High School. My first couple of days with a new class involved teaching them that, No you can't use your finger, and then how to use a mouse.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

I'm in high school rn. I had to use this program called TinkerCAD in middle school for some weird class on the basics of engineering. Wasn't particularly good at it, but no one needed an explanation of keyboard and mouse. Chromebooks are used heavily, so that makes sense. I never really considered that keyboard and mouse wouldn't be at least learned. I guess with smartphones and iPads it makes sense. Makes me a little sad, but whatever.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 4 points 3 days ago

Exactly. Exposure to technology does not make you tech literate. Tech literate typically means engaged with new technologies.

For instance, people were using phones, fax machines, calculators, watches, etc when dial up came out. Those users were not considered tech literate.

The same happens today, an iPhone or Android user is not tech literate by default anymore.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Imagine studying at uni for years to become a programmer, only to be replaced by a vibe coder with an iPhone.
But remember, hard work always pays off!

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We all imagine that, is has yet to happen. Vibe coders can produce the spaghetti code of upwards of 10 unpaid interns! What value!

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