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[–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 19 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Adding a few more points to fully kill crypto as a "freedom currency"

  • Generating crypto requires capital; people with computers and access to energy will instantly get the ability to outgenerate any other crypto participant
  • Energy-centric currency just empowers the same rich lobbies; oil and gaz lobbies are delighted to see that there's an uptick in energy demand
  • People with right material (read, capital) can track you, but low chance to track anyone doing crime at a national level (due to odds of them having a competent IT (baring the Hegseth drunkards out there))
[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Also because the entire thing is backed financially by energy wasted, crypto has actually been slowing down the adoption of cheaper, safer renewable energy.

People spend x dollars on generating crypto, they expect to sell it for x+profit

Ergo if energy became cheaper, crypto would devalue and we can't have that.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

Mining hardware is the bigger cost for bitcoin. Tokens are the largest cost for PoS.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago

"Difficulty adjustment" minimizes profits. You get a much higher return on the stock market than you do holding dollars.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Your post applies to Bitcoin specifically, not crypto in general.

[–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

So according to you, there's a crypto that 1. doesn't need any capital (computers), 2. doesn't need wastable energy (power that wouldn't otherwise be used) and 3. is actually impossible to track across the board?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

From a user perspective yes to all 3.

From a infrastructure perspective,

  1. You need capital to keep people honest. Nothing at risk means people can lie

  2. Some power is still needed, but Ethereum has gone from the consumption of Chile to a single windfarm.

  3. ZK proofs now allow anyone to create an anonymous token. Most blockchains are opt in for anonymity.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I have an ignorant question: is gaz a French-Canadian spelling? I always thought it was Russian.

[–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago

As far as I know it's just french spelling, not limited to French-Canadian.