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[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Good luck. Even China isn't able to fully crack down on VPNs or Tor.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

China doesn't want to

Just like the US gov not catching drug lords when they do stupid stuff

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Just them trying hurts a ton tho.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

it kinda confuses me that china couldn't restrict VPN and Tor if it wanted to. i rather suspect they turn a blind eye, for some reason.

[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

IIRC it's mainly that many corporations depend on VPNs for security - blanket banning would make it pretty hard for multinationals to work in china

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remote work/administration too. I work on servers one of which is behind the chinese firewall, via ssh. ssh can carry socks natively, I could build a crude throttled but working vpn in seconds.

China is also slowing transfers in general, I guess to push domestic providers and servers. Even with that if they don't want to sever all economic and scientific connections it will remain possible, though cumbersome to most.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

until AI replaces the scientists

There are too many ways around it to viably block VPNs and Tor. Both offer bridge services that don't look like VPNs and can come from different places.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

They don't turn a blind eye. It's just that the VPN's that work through China's firewall do so over ports that the entire internet uses, like 443 (https). They could filter everything, but it'd be a loooot more resource intensive to filter all internet traffic by destination/content instead of only doing that with extra ports that extra services like VPNs normally use.

... and as others have pointed out, there ARE valid reasons to allow some VPNs. Forcing them to jump through hoops to function is no skin off their back, while properly filtering all traffic would be disasterous for them beyond the expense.