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[–] Beebabe@lemmy.world 139 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (97 children)

So I’ve noticed this post isn’t going over very well. I’d like to add a female perspective.

“Mansplain” isn’t meant to say you info dump or over explain a thing. It means that you assume you know more simply based on sex. It’s a type of misogyny that’s more typically overt in boomer culture, but it’s got a following in the whole Tate movement. I have rarely noticed it outside of that generation in the wild.

Now…Guys do infodump, which leads to this confusion, because a lot of people dislike that behavior too. Statistically women do speak less in mixed groups. Put it all together and it’s easy for people to over generalize a very specific behavior. It does happen, but compared to previous generations it’s not as common. It definitely occurs to women who work in non-traditional fields and take on non-traditional roles and I suspect that the same is true for men.

[–] DrSoap@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Imagine going to school for years and years. You have your doctorate. You're in the field for 10 years. You work in field that is 93% male. You find a new job, good pay and reputable. The boss on the daily explains things to you. Some things that are just basic science and not even directly applicable to your work. No other new hires get these interesting and informative chats but what a coincidence, all the other new hires are men. I never called it "mansplaining," it's just sexism. One cute word doesn't capture the malice that is often behind it and makes men who view themselves as harmless defensive. Of course there is pointing out systemic sexism that is ingrained in natural behavior but its important to note the difference in a simple conversation and singling out a woman to explain something while assuming she doesn't have anything in that pretty little head of hers. Personally hence, I've noticed it used most often when the woman you're targeting is smarter than you and this is a subtle power play to remind her of her place.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Mansplainer perspective here. No, it doesn't come (for me) from a belief that a woman can't do anything, it rather comes from an instruction from a childhood that boys should always help and defend girls. If I were in place of that boss, my unconscious intent would be to lower the woman's burden.

I catch myself doing it and stop it but it's the hardest pattern I have ever corrected insofar.

[–] GoddessGundy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I really appreciate this perspective and it really does shine light on how one is raised based on their gender. I can think of a multitude of examples from your perspective and also from who you are responding to.

I'm absolutely positive that, regardless of how hard I tried not to, I did raise my son and daughter differently. All I hope is that I did a little better than my parents did for me and my brothers and, should they have kids themselves, my children do a little better than I did, and so on and so forth.

Today is not that day but maybe when I'm dust, society will slowly limp along and evolve. Conversations like this may seem divisive now but I think they're needed in the grand scheme of things.

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[–] musubibreakfast@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Bruh, I had a colleague who transitioned FTM and he would talk about this all the time. Constantly being told the most basic shit over and over really fucked with the guy before he transitioned, he said not having to deal with it felt like a breath of fresh air.

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[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Infodumping male here, I generally do it because in my mind context is important to make sense, and of course I do it regardless of gender. It honestly feels like a detriment, as I feel myself taking too long, but don't really know how to shorten it. I do it when explaining issues at work or when talking about stuff I like etc, but have audio has times where I tried to be brief then got the wrong info across or forgot to mention something important or just right make sense. It's like I can't find the right balance between explaining and dumping.

I didn't find this post as an insult or anything though.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have the same problem. I work in IT and when I was on the help desk I was one of the "go to" people if someone needed help with a call. There were a couple times I heard new hires complain that I was "mansplaining" to them because I never knew where someone was coming from in terms of technical ability so when I answered their question I began at the beginning to make sure they understood. I did the same thing regardless of gender but I can see how someone felt like I was being condescending if they weren't familiar with me. It did always seem like it was people who didn't want to be there that would complain about it too. On the other hand several people that went on to get promoted off the help desk sent me thank you notes for teaching them so much so it kind of balanced out.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I had an experience with a male coworker. I am a man too.

He asked me because he had a USB and he wanted to put the windows iso onto it but it didn't work. Eventually he used the media creator (or whatever it is called) but he asked if I knew what the issue was. After a lot of questions, I had figured it out.

He wanted to create a bootable USB by drag and drop the iso onto the usb and the usb was formated in fat32, so the iso was too big for the filesystem.

In that conversation, he said multiple times that he knows about this or that and that he knows computers, e.g. when I asked about the size of the usb (maybe it was a very old USB with like 4gb storage). And I could tell how he was slightly offended by some questions.

Also please note, he was "following" the Microsoft tutorial

Edit: typos fixed

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Info dump goes both ways, men usually info dump about things, women info dump about people. Its echoed in men vs women photography of trips also. Men typically photograph things (here's a car/bike/castle I saw), and typically women photograph people.( here's me and my sister, here's a court yard with people dancing)

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I noticed this with my parents.

All my dad ever sent me pictures of is architecture. Or a tank, he also likes a good tank.

I have no end of pictures on my phone of funny looking houses in Austria or somewhere.

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[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I had a woman at a car service counter take in my car once. She was dressed nicely and clean so of course I assumed she only did paperwork.

I treated her like a human. Explained my car symptoms and where I think the problem is. (Car electric went nuts and lost power steering when i hit a puddle.)

Holy crap she knew her stuff. I mentioned it felt like the alternator wasnt performing right and undervolting, but since it's only when driving threw a puddle it had to be a component siezing and pulling on the accessory belt. She agreed that's a good place to start and ran through all the bits in that system as well as thier diagnostic steps planned.

I figured she knew about cars but it felt like she was a full on mechanic and was the manager dressed up.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Treating people with basic humanity should be the bare minimum, but sadly it's a foregone conclusion.

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[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)

IDK, I often find myself mansplain and not infodump. I am not from the boomers, I'm not sexist in any rational way, I'm pretty left leaning, I am though a piece of shit sometimes.

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[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm really nerding out on synthesisers right now, and 99 percent sure she doesn't know what after-touch means, or why I'm excited that I picked up a late 90s synth with a good keybed and full midi.

My lady friend doesn't own anything that looks like a keyboard, so I'll apologize for the over explanation, then proceed to explain why I'm so stoked.

Essentially, I got, 'I'm glad that makes you happy!' Which I know means shit up and move on.

If she wants to know more about modular synthesis or rompers, I'm sure she would ask. I wouldn't force an explanation on anybody.

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