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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This would make it illegally to call for Trump to be locked up for the legitimate crimes has has and is committing and is obviously unconstitutional

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Coming from a country that has similar laws: it's about inciting hatred or violence.

Phrased as the previous commenter did, literally making it illegal to say lock them up, might not work.

But.

Saying Trump should be locked up for his crimes is not inciting hate or violence, because he has objectively committed crimes and the courts should do their job thankyouverymuch. Saying AOC should be locked up for made-up crimes based on made-up law is a different matter altogether.

But I'm aware that the US legal system has a looong way to go before it can accomodate for such distinctions.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

But I'm aware that the US legal system has a looong way to go before it can accomodate for such distinctions.

And we're moving farther from that goal with every decision handed down by our Supreme Court.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

It is different but do you expect a trial for person A saying person B should be locked up to first hold a mock trial for person B without access or standing to actually do so correctly before they can render a verdict on person A? Objectively unreasonable.

This is also massively prone to abuse. Even creating a plausible context for prosecuting someone creates the potential for effectively punishing critics even if everyone one of them gets off. This is further assuming that they actually get off even if innocent by your standards and mine.

Then there is the simple fact that based on US law this is sufficiently contrary to our laws that it would require a constitutional amendment which would be impossible to pass. It doesn't matter if it could be passed in your country it certainly couldn't be passed in this one.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No it would not.

Calling for something reasonable after proven evidence is submitted that the person broke the law should not be criminalized, though even with that there is a time and place. Submit that stuff to a court, not to twitter.

Either way, I'm talking about making random unsubstantiated claims or over generalizing claims like "all Jews are evil because they all support genocide" which obviously is bullshit

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

How do you substantiate it without literally proving it in court which in this case we are here in the US specifically denied the right to do