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Just FYI, you in Europe should spend more time learning how not to freak out the moment you invite a relatively small amount of Muslim people of color to live among you as refugees and start pushing boats back into the sea to drown. We watch your society start to break apart the moment it drifts even a tiny bit away from white ethnostates. Hungary and Poland fell before the US.
Don't get me wrong, we're a flaming dumpster fire right now, but it gets very tired very quickly listening to you people look down your noses at the US like your shit doesn't stink as you teeter to and from the brink of far right parties taking power every 3 years on a platform of "no Muslims in Country X." You're not wrong, but glass houses my guy. You judge us, but the rest of the world judges us both.
And how’s Europe and such doing on gay rights, women’s rights, diversity, privacy rights, health science, climate science, wealth equality, economic policy, territorial threats…
One comparable out of many doesn’t make a glass house.
I think the point was that the far right is close to winning in Europe. If they do, you can kiss all those things goodbye, just like us.
I mean, it isnt as bad as in the US yet, but were definitely on our way. Just listen to the garbage that sounds exactly like maga from people around you.
It feels like everyone is making hate and fear their new identity, and the minorities get blamed.
Where do you think the authoritarian, anti-intellectual, isolationist, puritanical Christian nationalism found in the U.S. historically began?
Where are concentration camps happening already?
Where is a popular fascist already in power?
Fucking Americans playing whataboutism when they’re a mile down the road already.
It's not "whataboutism". It's about understanding historical context and threads that tie history and geopolitics across time and oceans.
Yes, I'm an American and it's bad back home. Arguably worse than ever before. And the American flavor of conservative techno-feudalism certainly has its own unique stench. We have much to fight, and we suck at it (currently).
However, I live in the Netherlands currently, since July of 2022, and not exactly by choice. My (Dutch) then-fiance-now-wife got an incurable diagnosis during the pandemic, preventing her from moving to the U.S. But before, I've been all over Europe. I've read plenty of "Western Civilization" history textbooks in high school and university as well. I see all of the right-wing conservative macho bullshit here in supposedly "liberal Northwest Europe" that I see emanating from MAGA pussies back home. In the Netherlands, that would be the BBB and the PVV.
The mentality I'm referring to is from here. In Europe. EVERYthing in modern US conservative talking points can trace its roots right back to puritanical European ~~Christian white supremacist monarchism/fascism/authoritarianism,~~ "WE'RE-IN-CHARGE-FOREVER-BECAUSE-WE'RE-'CIVILIZED'"-ism.
"God, Gold, and Glory" was a thing long before U.S was. The American flavor of it has its roots here, so, please, as an American not of European descent, cut the fucking bullshit. Don't throw stones from your supposedly manicured glass houses. Or, if I'm wrong, invite some Roma people or economic migrants from
<insertFormerColonialTerritoryHere>into your home, with all of that holier-than-thou "love" in your heart.Thank you for your posts in this thread. Your work correcting these people is not unnoticed. They've got 300-year-old raw sewage in their basement, see their neighbour's house has a black mold problem, and then when they find specks of mold in their kitchen, they scream that the neighbours have brought the plague. If they fail to clean their kitchen for one week, the rot will seep in to a degree that their neighbour's house could never achieve, and it is only by the cleaning habits of a small minority of their household that the house remains livable, but the person screaming is too preoccupied with the spectacle next door to actually clean house. What, do they think that the person next door isn't trying to clean? Next door is a much bigger house, and the sewage has started leaking through the now-septic foundations from the burst pipe in the screamer's basement.
Basically just using a different analogy to say that you are spot on. Carry on.
I'll be honest, I had to reread it a couple times, but I think I understand the analogy now. Thanks for your compliment as well.
Well that depends, how about you go ask TURF Island or Hungary or most of literally everything south or east of Germany. If you're gonna pretend France and Germany are all of Europe then you should at least be comparing to like, idk, just NYC and CA or something. Again, reeeeeeeal glass heavy house over there.
https://rainbowmap.ilga-europe.org/
I agree with you, trying to compare a single country to a union of countries, where every entity has their own interests and culture is kinda useless. Eastern europe has a lot of catching up to do, but I don't get how we devolved into fighting under a video of trump using AI to post a video discrediting former president Obama by framing him as a criminal. We all just want a world worth living in, where everybody has the same chances. We ought to fight TOGETHER against these race-ideology idiots spewing hate and fake news
exactly! it's just a bunch of brown people we have to abandon to maintain our perfect society. I mean they're barely "people".
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