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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 95 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The quality of life of kids has degraded at least in the US and no not primarily from smartphones and social media.

The answer is simple, life is harder for parents.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And also the lack of third places making it a lot harder for both adults and kids to get together with friends in person without having to spend money

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Also the move towards car-centric infrastructure. Which is somewhat related to the lack of 3rd places.

A lot of the movies with these parties had the kids showing up by walking or biking, which just is not feasible anymore. I

I also think about all the teen movies that were largely set in shopping malls. Most of the malls around me have shut down, so what's next? Pretending people hang out and socialize in Wal-Marts for the sake of the movie?

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

When the 24 hour Walmart opened in my podunk town it was a popular teen hangout after 10 or so.

This was in the late 90s though. I’m not sure what it’s like now, but that was also when teens got cheap ass cars as soon as they had a license.

Cash for clunkers, the economic busts and the auto industry eliminating affordable small cars (in the US at least), and more recently the insurance industry has changed car prices/expenses to make teens in that area less mobile and more isolated. Now it’s mostly drunks and retail employees after a shift in there after 9pm. And it’s not open 24 hours since the pandemic.

[–] Twipped@l.twipped.social 3 points 1 week ago

They actually do, or Target. Spend some time in there around 8-9pm and watch the little groups of teens wandering the store.

Pretending people hang out and socialize in Wal-Marts for the sake of the movie?

Wal-Mart "Did someone say product placement?"

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah the effect of that is really insidious and far reaching, I know it hurt me growing up no question.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The thing is, all the fun things that adults used to be able to do to blow off steam away from kids, keep getting ruined by going more "family friendly". When I was a kid, there was a thing at the boulder reservoir with music and events, and people would drink and smoke weed and be mostly left alone. They made it family friendly and it started to die, then they decided it wasn't eco-friendly so they killed it off.

Ragrbrai in Iowa happened the same way. A weeklong ride across the state that changes stops every year. Used to be drunken debauchery at the stops and now it's family friendly and no fun anymore. Concerts are the same way. I know kids listen to slipknot, but why the fuck should I watch my mouth now that kids are around, when the singers saying much worse (in context) on stage? I'm sure everyone everywhere in America has a story like this. 4th of July on Apple River, in Wisconsin, back in college it was a blast. Alcohol and titties everywhere. I haven't been since cops started going and enforcing shit.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I blame 2008 a lot of people didn't have money to spend individually so they had to combo it into family time. Combine that with the fact that a lot of the places that used to cater to adults started to get increasingly ratty and decrepit without being replaced and ya end up with a rather bad feedback loop. In my area for example there's only really one thing an adult can do at night in public that being go to a bar, but I know for a fact that when I was a kid a lot of places switched over to adults only past 8 PM so that they could attract folks who didn't want to deal with kids nearby and I'm not just talking about a mini golf course or some shit there used to be a hobby store near me that did adults only Warhammer games at night which just meant bear and cussing.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It’s feels like America never really learned to maintain things.