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i love how woke has almost become a seal of approval at this point
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I'm not sure what 'insane takes' you are referring to. I don't think 'being a decent person' equates to an 'insane take'. I also don't think anyone is trying to start a 'war' either. I think they are just tired of being made to feel ashamed to be who they are and refuse to play along with that any longer. If other people can't handle that and want to "go to war" with LGBTQ people over their identity- that's on them.
I didn't come up with the whole "Linux is Gay" thing and you are right it doesn't really correlate, but if 'gay' people can bond over FLOSS and feel like they belong in the Community- I think that's fantastic and I welcome them. I'm certainly not going to go out of my way to make the distinction. Literally who is it hurting?
Again, if certain people are turned away from Linux because it's perceived as being 'gay', those aren't the kind of people I care to associate with in the first place. If they want to go off and make their own "Straight Cis Hetero No-Homo Linux Club" more power to them. I'll happily hang out with the 'Gay' Linux homies instead.
The "insane take" is the idea that sexual orientation is some extraordinary human characteristic which defines a person.
A non-insane take is that it's just a normal human trait whose effects are mainly limited to a few domains (or would be, if there weren't so many morons around presuming things about and treating people differently depening on their sexual orientation).
Only a nutter would think that, say the color of one's eyes or the size of one's feet make somebody a better or a worse person and, as I see it that's exactly the same for sexual orientation: outside the context of chosing romantic and sexual partners, sexual orientation is a totally irrelevant thing and having a positive or negative opinion on somebody based on their sexual orientation is about as rational as having it based on the size of their feet.
In my eyes the politics of treating sexual orientation abnormally amongst human traits, and dragging it into all sorts of contexts were it is irrelevant, is just an hypocrite distration from actually addressing those things that mater for the quality of life of most people, which is why this shit is so popular in the profoundly broken political systems of places like the US and the UK.
Do you really think that the people memeing about Linux being 'gay' are implying that they are "extraordinary" and that they are better than others because of their sexual orientation? Are you so disconnected from the world at large that you honestly think that is a possibility?
Well, that's the thing isn't it? If everyone minded their own business and didn't judge other people based on their sexual orientation, then I'm quite certain no one would feel the need to ever mention it outside of the context of choosing a romantic partner. But that isn't the case is it? 'Recent' history is chock full of people judging others because of their sexuality.
For at least two centuries people have murdered, jailed, beat, persecuted, discriminated against and generally treated 'gay' people like like second class citizens or wicked deviants. Now that it's somewhat safe to be openly gay in certain places, is it really so surprising that they are open and 'proud' of it?
By 'Proud' I do not mean that they think it's extraordinary or that it makes them better than anyone else, I mean they recognize the fact that it IS normal and that they refuse to be ashamed because of it or hide it like they used to have to. It's also a way to show solidarity with other people like them and build communities that support and help each other fight against such bigotry.
Consider the fact that Billions of people still have religions and/or viewpoints that say it's immoral and sinful for 'gay' people to be who they are.
I don't see how it's 'hypocritical' for someone to meme about Linux being 'gay', but whatever.
It must be nice to live in a Utopian society where no one is judged because of superficial characteristics beyond their control and all forms of bigotry were abolished long, long ago. Where is that btw? For the rest of us, we do have to live in 'profoundly broken' places where idiots and bigots make a big deal out of such things. And it's hardly just the US or the UK, try going to Afghanistan or Sudan, Yemen, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somaliland or Nigeria and proclaim in public that you are LGBT or Q, see how enlightened they are about it.
Mate, you're basically justifying your own obcession with a specific human trait, by there having existed and existing bad people who are obcessed with it and have done and do bad things using it as a justification.
In other words; you're accepting the hierarchy of importance and relevance of human traits which the bad people have and then just saying you're going in the opposite direction - in other words, you claim to reject their actions yet stay within the same framework of prejudice that they defined
It's not exactly wise to try and counter bad people within the rules of the game they themselves defined. Thinking people figure out when they're children that it's not smart to play a game against those who make the rules of the game whilst staying within the rules they made.
I, on the other hand totally reject their framing and prejudiced, reductive take on people, and think those who follow it are "insane" and "morons".
That doesn't stop me from being against injustices being commited against people by those justifying it using such reductive framings of the human nature, because I'm against ALL injustice as a broader principle, quite independently of whatever insane framing those committing the injustices are using to try and justify their actions - accepting the aggressor's "logical" framing in order to counter-argument within that framing is not a requirement for siding with the victims, it's not even an effective form of siding with the victims because by trying to counter-argument within that framing you are accepting the framing, thus risk prolonging the injustice.
You never did say where this Utopian paradise you live in is located. I would honestly love to hear about this society that has completely solved racism and bigotry forever. Perhaps people in profoundly broken societies can learn your example.
WTF, lol. No, I am in no way "obcessed". You don't have to be obsessed to have a modicum of empathy for people who have been and are still are being oppressed. I'm also not 'justifying' anything, I don't feel like I have done anything that requires justification. Having compassion for my fellow humans is nothing I need to justify to you or anyone else.
I'm not at all sure how you got that from my comment, but that is a crazy take. Especially considering how I already spelled it out in explicit detail. Once again, since you seem to have missed it, being LGBTQ doesn't make you "extraordinary" or "better than" anyone else. I lack the vocabulary to explain it in any more clearly than that.
I don't rank anyone based on their superficial characteristics. I'm actually an Anarchist because I don't believe in hierarchy at all, much less one based around characteristics that are beyond peoples control. Just because I show love and compassion for a group of people who have been and continue to be marginalized and discriminated against, doesn't imply I think they are better than anyone else ffs. I'm not sure if you have ever heard of the concept of 'equality' but you should look it up sometime. ALL people deserve to be respected as human beings, regardless of their superficial characteristics.
You are against injustice, but the people who have experienced injustice should shut the fuck up about it and never mention it in any context other than a very narrow and specific circumstance that you as a person privileged enough not to have to suffer such indignities dictate because you find it 'distracting'. Do I understand you correctly?