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[–] virku@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Mandatory tips in general is a silly concept for me. The driver should be earning a fair salary without it and the price of the food/delivery should account for the staff costs. And any tips should be a voluntary extra. I feel the same about adding taxes on top of the sticker price the way they do in the US. That was an unexpected culture shock for me when I went there a few years ago.

[–] head_socj@midwest.social 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

"should" is really pulling all of the weight here.

[–] virku@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Well yeah. I'm Norwegian, so I have no business saying what you, or maybe it is they, must do with their system of business.

[–] head_socj@midwest.social 4 points 14 hours ago

I understand. FWIW, I'm American and I think it's a valid criticism. Tipping culture is just a smoke show to distract from wage suppression and exploitative labor practices. I say this as someone who also worked in fine dining for a decade before switching careers.

By and large, restaurant culture in the US is disgustingly oppressive and completely reliant on immigrant labor, hence the lack of any meaningful headway in legislating protections for said laborers. However, the trick in America is to push the middle class just to the edge of their means so they punch down on service workers, but not enough for them to develop class consciousness.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Especially given the high probability that the app doesn't even pass on that full amount to the driver.