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Trump disavows supporters pushing Jeffrey Epstein 'bulls---': 'I don't want their support anymore!'
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He is losing the narrative control over his base. Cracks....cracks forming!
There have been people like that at each point of time since 2016. Until now, they were just tiny swarfs of a big table. The question is now whether it will still be just a tiny percentage of followers or an actual significant part of the base.
From r/conservative:
Leopards! LEOPARDS, I SAY!
Leave the poor Leopards alone, this is job for Flesh Eating Fasciitis.
The irony:
"I am starting to think the mods of r/Conservative think we are idiots"
Starting to think, in general.
"I LOVE THE UNEDUCATED"
This is literally the last person on earth that understands this as the situation.
Poetry.
Know what? Good for them.
She will continue to vote Republican though, which is what matters since Trump can't run again anyway.
can't or won't?
If he gets another 'term' it won't be from running for office.
Vance is gonna run in 2028 and "step down", since the 22nd amendment states no on can be elected twice. That way, Trump wasn't elected, Vance was. They'll just make it very clear that a vote for Vance is a vote for trump.
Almost literally what Putin did
I'm surprised people here think he's going to live that long. He's so old...
No one ineligible for the presidency can hold the office of vp so that wouldn't work unless they made trump speaker of the house and the pres and veep both resigned or were defenestrated.
They will do what Putin did and create a new, unelected, position, appointed by the president. The vote for Vance will be understood as a vote for Trump, and as soon as he wins (somehow with 90%+ of the vote), he will abdicate his responsibilities to the newly created office, and the President will become a purely ceremonial role.
The blueprint is there.
That’s interesting…
But I don’t think it says anywhere that the speaker of the house has to be an elected member of congress?
Nope. It can be anyone except someone already appointed in the executive branch. It’s just tradition that the speaker was a representative.
Imagine Trump having to 'slum it' in the lower house though.
He’d only show up when it mattered and leave a peon to do any actual work. Probably Steven Miller.
But that's just it, the loophole would be that he is eligible to be president, but just that he can't be elected as such. It's pretty dumb but the phrasing of the 22nd does use the word "elected", clearly we all know the intent but the words may have undermined the spirit.
Either way, both the VP and the president have the same stated basic requirements, but the 22nd amendment makes no statement of the VP. While common sense suggests it's dumb to have a person that hit the term limit as VP, it is not expressly codified.
So no matter the interpretation of the 22nd amendment, it seems like he could be VP. If you have a sane interpretation of the 22nd amendment as a hard term limit, then the succession would skip such a VP, just like it would skip a foreign born person.
The 12th amendment states no person ineligible for the presidency can hold the vice presidency.
But he will.
Did he pull a Hillary "basket-of-deplorables" Clinton?
Except using it to describe a large portion of his base.
Let's see if this is the wake-up call THAT MAGA needed. We have been telling them for years that the Orange TACO doesn't give a turd about them. Now they get to hear it from the horses mouth. WAKE UP MAGA!
It's not the first time, the first time was in 2020 when he tried to push the covid vaccine as his great achievement. Which incidentally is something I will give him credit for.
But yeah, I'm cautiously hopeful. I think this is an opportunity the left has to actually reach people if we aren't dicks to them. If we're honest and treat them like people who got suckered into a cult or a long con we may get some folks to see what an evil sonofabitch he is
Based on the responses I’ve been reading here on Lemmy, not being dicks to them isn’t an option….
Yeah thats why I mentioned it. Like I get it, there's some pretty aggressive evil that they cheered on. But either we move the critical mass back or we suffer the consequences. Trust is broken but at a certain point you're desperate enough to not need trust.
I'm not saying to compromise our morals, please not that, I'm the second under the bus, but we can talk to people like they've been led to evil rather than like they're comprised wholly of evil.
Agreed… 100%… I haven’t been enjoying the comments as much recently because of all the toxic name calling and mockery… coming from the left….
And not in an ironic or funny way, just being hurtful for no reason…
I can see hating on Ted Cruz or other republican politicians, but we’re talking about voters… who have been lied to and misled… just like blue maga has been lied to about Biden and Kamala and Buttigieg and Obama, etc… when all these politicians are all basically on the same side of corporate America…. It’s really sad …
It's because of catharsis and because many are behaving evilly. It's because they are supporting fascism, it's just that now is a time to try to get them to stop and tactically the best call is to not be an asshole to them.
And no, these politicians are not all basically the same. Yes on some issues all of them suck, but not to the same degree and not on every issue.
Quick get the water! He brought his own ICE.