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i love how woke has almost become a seal of approval at this point
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Whilst I disagree that it is or was gay (or straight, or bi, or whatever sexual orientation - as far as I can tell the community is just a slice of the broader world in that), I totally agree that the Free Software community has always been what some nowadays call "woke".
It's really just the "live and let live", "don't hurt your fellow human beings" and "share rather than hoard" principles of the community, that both make people share their work and their knowledge and be tolerant of others in those things (the intolerance is reserved for people who use the "wrong" editor or programming language!), which in the meanwhile the Identitarian Wars in the US ended up labeling "woke", maybe because over there the politicians weaponizing such matters to avoid talking about Wealth Inequality couldn't simply call it "Leftwing".
Its 'Gay' in the sense that we accept people for who they are and don't judge people based on irrelevant factors, which bigots will inevitability call 'Gay'. As a straight Cis man, I'm proud to stand with my 'Gay' homies. If that scares certain bigots away from the community- Bonus!
I also believe in Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Anarcho-Communism ™, so yeah, call me all the things fascists hate- it's literally fuels my fire.
That's just being a decent person.
There is no need to drag in the Identity Wars and the insane takes on very specifc human traits such as sexual orientation from those, into what has nothing to do with it.
Those who also care for others rather than just themselves do good things - that's open source in a nutshell. As it so happens, in the very narrow subset of human thinking which is the Identity Wars, that means they tend to side with those who don't want to hurt others merely for who they were born as.
I'm not sure what 'insane takes' you are referring to. I don't think 'being a decent person' equates to an 'insane take'. I also don't think anyone is trying to start a 'war' either. I think they are just tired of being made to feel ashamed to be who they are and refuse to play along with that any longer. If other people can't handle that and want to "go to war" with LGBTQ people over their identity- that's on them.
I didn't come up with the whole "Linux is Gay" thing and you are right it doesn't really correlate, but if 'gay' people can bond over FLOSS and feel like they belong in the Community- I think that's fantastic and I welcome them. I'm certainly not going to go out of my way to make the distinction. Literally who is it hurting?
Again, if certain people are turned away from Linux because it's perceived as being 'gay', those aren't the kind of people I care to associate with in the first place. If they want to go off and make their own "Straight Cis Hetero No-Homo Linux Club" more power to them. I'll happily hang out with the 'Gay' Linux homies instead.
The "insane take" is the idea that sexual orientation is some extraordinary human characteristic which defines a person.
A non-insane take is that it's just a normal human trait whose effects are mainly limited to a few domains (or would be, if there weren't so many morons around presuming things about and treating people differently depening on their sexual orientation).
Only a nutter would think that, say the color of one's eyes or the size of one's feet make somebody a better or a worse person and, as I see it that's exactly the same for sexual orientation: outside the context of chosing romantic and sexual partners, sexual orientation is a totally irrelevant thing and having a positive or negative opinion on somebody based on their sexual orientation is about as rational as having it based on the size of their feet.
In my eyes the politics of treating sexual orientation abnormally amongst human traits, and dragging it into all sorts of contexts were it is irrelevant, is just an hypocrite distration from actually addressing those things that mater for the quality of life of most people, which is why this shit is so popular in the profoundly broken political systems of places like the US and the UK.
Learning about open-source and GIMP in the early days and spiraling into searches about leather daddies made me a little gay.