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Edited to add - To be clear for anyone, it's Oligarchs/Billionaires paired with rampant, unfettered corporate greed. (at least in my view)

Someone reminded me that I was using dogwhistle parlance in my use of they which may have suggested otherwise.

Here are some visual aids to accompany my clarification:

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[โ€“] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Gee I wonder what happens to the line "Capitalism lifted millions out poverty" when you take out China. ๐Ÿคฆ

Notice how we don't have FDR style protections anymore and haven't since the 1970s? Doesn't count if it doesnt exist anymore. The only places those safety nets exist is in the Scandinavian countries and those protections are the result of the Second International which was a Communist organization.

Che Guevara is a commie so I guess I don't actually have a problem with that. But a commie warlord would actually idolize Mao. Learn your communist figures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index?wprov=sfla1

71 countries in the global south are considered democratic by the West. Thats a full 45% of them including places like Argentina, Brazil, Chile. Notice how all of these countries have issues that are already solved in the US? Notice how having a Democratic government in place didn't create safety nets. Notice how these place dont have a safety net.

Sorry what was that about socialist countries solving or having similar problems that "Democratic governments" still haven't solved themselves?

[โ€“] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

China is capitalism with a red flag, and so is Cuba, and so was the USSR. All failed projects that just returned back to capitalism. The fact you're trying to argue this shit while coming from lemmy.ml is hilarious. We all know your actual alignment.

China didn't lift anyone out of poverty. Just like capitalists, they just lowered the poverty threshold. They're currently oppressing their workers with massive work hours, no choice to join any union that isn't the government's, and they still have billionaires.

China is not and will never be socialist. You're a capitalist with a hammer and sickle.