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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

In that case Obama as a person was more responsible than Trump who signs whatever the Heritage Foundation puts in front of him. Trump isn't responsible for anything then. His GOP lobby can be blamed and he can be absolved.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

In that case Obama as a person was more responsible than Trump who signs whatever the Heritage Foundation puts in front of him.

Obama's signature accomplishment was a heritage foundation policy. centrists have been coasting on it ever since as proof that they're totally different from republicans.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah nope, I agree with TheReturnOfPEB now, you're just being racist. Blame the man for things he actually did, not whatever this is.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

When your favorite billionaire defender turns out to be a bad person, simply call other people racist. Great argument.

[–] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 4 points 17 hours ago

This is refreshing. Lemmy has felt a bit besmirched by liberalism lately, and it’s had me a little down. Thanks stranger.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not defending him for the things he actually did. He absolutely bailed out billionaires during the financial crisis. Blaming him for breaking up OWS protests is nonsensical though, and your insistence that it was on him can't really be explained as anything else. There are just so many better criticisms you could have of the man.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Obama can be blamed for many other things such as record drone striking on innocent civilians and persecuting journalists exposing his empire's war crimes.

But most impactful of all was his saving of the American billionaire elites which are the crux of all this suffering.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 16 hours ago

I didn't even deny that bestie, I called you out for saying he brutally suppressed OWS protests. That's a complete fabrication. I called you racist when you tried to imply that Trump is less at fault for straight up fascism than Obama was for milquetoast neoliberalism.