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[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 257 points 1 week ago (5 children)

"Democrats will be doing a disservice [...] if they don't come together and decide to support whichever candidate has the most support among them"...

what do you think a primary election is? it is literally seeing who has the most support among democrats. so this guy is the one who is doing the disservice of not deciding to support Zohran

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 155 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Yeah but the people don't know who they want. The DNC knows who the people want. This is why I nominate Hillary Clinton as NYC mayor.

[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago (4 children)

yeah, let's stop "cannibalizing each other's support" by attacking the nominee and giving support to others. very sound strategy, mr paterson.

sheessh. can't he SEE that the democrats need new blood

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 68 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Democrats and Republicans work for the same billionaires. You are about to witness Democrats working against Mamdani like they never have against Republicans.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 36 points 1 week ago (8 children)

In a fight between socialism and fascism, liberals will ALWAYS support the fascists.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 156 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Mamdani: It's about the policies

Democrats: Gee whiz, you ran such a good campaign

Voters: It's about the policies

Democrats: Gosh, if only centrists could find such a charismatic guy.

They think everyone but them is so stupid. It's infuriating that the system is set up so we're forced to work with these twats.

We found that charismatic centrist they're looking for. His name is Barack Obama, and we're still dealing with the fallout of him campaigning on "change" and failing to deliver.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Because of Obama I had health insurance. Because of Obama I was not in medical bankruptcy.

But then again that was almost 10 YEARS AGO. Blaming a black American man for White Backlash is so American it hurts.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 week ago (21 children)

Because of Obama the banks got bailed out.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The last time a non-change candidate won a presidential election in the US was 2004. No president since Obama has had enough of a majority in congress to enact meaningful change, and it was squandered. It's not entirely his fault, but as the leader of the Democrats at the time he takes the plurality of responsibility. The ACA started off as a change that could have fixed healthcare in the US but got watered down into propping up a fundamentally broken system.

Trying to deflect a politicians legitimate failures as racism or sexism is so Democrat it hurts. Yes, racism and sexism played a part in Trump winning, but discontent with the status quo pushed him over the finish line. If racism and sexism alone are enough to fuel the Trump regime and keep it in power, then I guess it's time to flee the country, because we're a lost cause.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He should have ripped heaven from earth for that supreme court seat.

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[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 93 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As long as Democrats block popular leftist policy they are no better than the Republicans.

If a party only allows policy that consolidates wealth into the hands of the rich then it is useless to workers.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sorry babe, but vote blue no matter who.

And, uh, by blue we mean red this time.

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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

We cannot aford ideas without a plan for implementation or funding.

From Zohran's site:

Taxes on big corporations and the wealthiest New Yorkers

Zohran has a plan to bring down the cost-of-living through city-owned grocery stores, universal childcare, and other bold proposals, and he knows exactly how to pay for it, too. Zohran’s revenue plan will raise the corporate tax rate to match New Jersey’s 11.5%, bringing in $5 billion. And he will tax the wealthiest 1% of New Yorkers—those earning above $1 million annually—a flat 2% tax (right now city income tax rates are essentially the same whether you make $50,000 or $50 million). Zohran will also implement common-sense procurement reform, end senseless no-bid contracts, hire more tax auditors, and crack down on fine collection from corrupt landlords to raise an additional $1 billion.

[–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago

There’s some unspoken words there:

We cannot aford ideas without a plan for implementation or funding.

“…that must not impact our wealthy donors.”

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[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Democrats are more scared of the left than Nazis.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Glances at Eric Adams

Some of those that work forces...

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They've spent more time and effort going after Mamdani than they did trying to stop the "Big Beautiful Bill."

[–] regedit@feddit.online 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hey, don't be disingenuous, they got the name changed in the senate and Booker stood tall with his little-league baseball bat! You can't expect perfection!

le sigh/S because this is the world we live in...

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I love how this asshole talks about "cannibalizing support" when he's openly against the officially recognized Democratic nominee for mayor.

What a fucking joke. I hope to fuck he gets primaried too. We need to stop letting these corpo democrats suck up all the oxygen in the room.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Are recalls a thing there? Because that Paterson guy needs to be recalled.

Edit: He’s not even governor. He served a partial term in 15 years ago and wasn’t even elected. This is madness.

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[–] pigup@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago

"Democrats will be doing a disservice to the people they wish to serve"

So.... billionaires

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 49 points 1 week ago (6 children)

They are gonna hand the election to the GOP because they refuse to fucking retire and let a new generation make decisions.

The DNC is just as culpable for both Trump terms as the GOP voters imo.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The DNC already handed the election to Trump. And now that a leftist gets any momentum the DNC are still doing everyhing in their power to prevent leftists from winning.

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[–] immutable@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s not really a generational thing.

The DNC has been bought by the donor class. They operate under the (not insane) belief that they need huge sums of money to win elections.

Mamdani makes the donors unhappy, it’s as simple as that.

Mamdani is around the same age Pete Buttigieg was when he started getting into the national spotlight. Buttigieg doesn’t threaten the donor class, so full support. Fun memes and tweets about him going on Fox News and making a host look like a fool.

You see any popular candidate get crapped on by the DNC, go read what the candidate wants to do and ask yourself a simple question “does this threaten the wealth of the donor class?” If the answer is yes you are guaranteed that the DNC establishment are going to be fighting that candidate.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 48 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Welp, at this point anyone calling the us any form of democracy has to put the clown makeup on thick first.

You have a two party system with one party having no access to anyone not on a list of approved individuals vs the other party having a glorious leader and no access to anyone unless approved. The real sad part is only one of those two cares about holding power, so you have a nation of fascists (remember they did win that election) and a bunch of people who can claim some sort of moral high ground.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 week ago

So "blue no matter who" and "the time for debate is during the primary" is only meant to benefit corporatist, war-hawk candidates?? I'm shocked, I tells ya.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't understand.

Mamdani is bad for New York because of what Trump has done?

While simultaneously using Trumpspeak?

Unity will allow the democrats to prevail?

A glob of unified uselessness is just as useless

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago

Nooo you can't do economic populism to win an election you're support to run solely on identity politics and protect the billionaire class! - Democrats.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Slander is spoken, libel is written.

[–] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 37 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Fuuuuuck the Democrats. The other right wingers.

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[–] udon@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Nice, I think this is the most honest confirmation that Mamdani is in fact the best candidate.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This whole situation has been the final straw for me and my support of the Democratic party. I used to think they were just incompetent and disorganized but this has shown that they are perfectly willing to openly sell our country to fascists to keep someone who is actually going to make a change for the positive out. I have never seen the democratic party unify so solidly behind anything other than hating on this guy.

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[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] the_trash_man@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

They're really gonna fuck him like Sanders huh

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He hasn't been NY Governor for 15 fucking years. I haven't heard a peep from him since. Now all of a sudden he's issuing press releases using his old title?

The GOP must love seeing the Democrats doing the work of destroying the Democrats for them.

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[–] opavader@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

these shills put a lot more effort fighting for trump and oligarchs than against them.

hopefully mamdani is the beginning of trend of booting out superpac pimps from dnc. these parasites have grifted enough with lesser evil excuse. no more compromise, dnc either becomes a democratic party or the progressives should form a new party.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm actively telling dem politicians to remove me from their stupid fundraising lists over this. Hell if a dem has offered anything but open support for Mamdani I will not even entertain the possibility of donating.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just like the Republican factions in The Spanish Civil War attacking each other for having the wrong ideology while the Fascists tightened their grip.

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Democratic leadership is controlled opposition, there's no other way to say it

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (9 children)

The Democratic establishment are almost as bad as Republicans are at this point. He beat his competition in the primary, so that's what voters want. I don't understand why they are debasing themselves like this, it's humiliatingly shameful.

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[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe finally people will start getting it in their heads that the current Democratic party - aside from the obvious outliers, Bernie, AOC, Warren etc - is not acting in their best interests...

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I really don't understand why Warren keeps being put in the company of Bernie or AOC.

Bernie and AOC are leftists (center left), and Warren is firmly center right at best.

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[–] Steve@startrek.website 23 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Its clear that Democrats are now the center (maybe center-right) party and there is no mainstream liberal party in the US

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

The Hillarycrats Ride Again!

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Democrats are clearly unwilling to do anything to fix the problems we have.

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