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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 36 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

So, a couple of things... Yes, their fault for being Trump supporters...

But also... She's 45, she came here when she was 10. She's had THIRTY-FIVE YEARS to become a US Citizen.

It does take an insane amount of time to work through the citizenship process, but it doesn't take 35 damn years. Especially not after marrying a US citizen.

Source: Friend of mine did it based on refugee status from Lebanon. My daughter-in-law did it on a student basis from Burma after marrying our son.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You could easily argue she was deported for trying to take the legal route. They grabbed her from her green card hearing

Realistically I’m sure it’s just laziness. ICE has quotas to meet and they realize they can’t meet them while performing due diligence. So, instead of finding and convicting criminals, set ambushes at immigration courts and places of work. It shows both the stupidity of quotas and the reality of creating “criminals” where none existed before

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

True, but it's a green card hearing that should have been done 29 or 30 years ago when she was 15 or 16 and trying to get her first job. :)

She's been here since the George H.W. Bush administration... plenty of time to have worked things out.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

you think becoming naturalized is going to stop them from deporting people?

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

naturalized are next "on the list" after they finish dealing with birthright citizens.

My parents moved to the US from Canada back in '98, became US citizens, and I've been hounding them almost daily at this point to come back home to Canada. At this point I don't care if I go into massive debt providing for them or if I have to get a second job just to be able to afford a place to rent with more than 2 bed rooms.

I'm just so terrified every day that ICE is going to detain one of them or both. I just can't get through to them that they need to leave the US and come back to Canada right now.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Oh no, they'll still revoke legitimate citizenship, but she made it way too easy by, you know, not earning citizenship in the first place.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I guess I don't quite understand why we have a system where someone that comes here at 10 later has to take extra steps to become a citizen, honestly.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Well, if they come here at 10 and aren't a citizen and don't do the work to become a citizen, then they still aren't a citizen.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I agree that's a fair point. I just wonder why it's even necessary to go through any extra hoops if you come here as a minor.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Well, the only guarantee is being born on US soil, there's nothing in place for minor children who are already citizens of a different country.

I could imagine automatic citizenship like that would cause more problems. Other countries would be like "Hey, we didn't authorize that!"

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Well, the only guarantee is being born on US soil

Well...for now, anyway. 🤮

I guess I don't know what the process is and how long the ordeal is, but it just seems weird that on top of all the other things one gets to do when thrown into adulthood is that they'd have some arduous process to go through.

I could imagine automatic citizenship like that would cause more problems. Other countries would be like “Hey, we didn’t authorize that!”

Fair. There is the problem of having to revoke it for countries that don't permit dual citizenship, I guess. Maybe if the U.S. at least had a short form they sent out to minors just before they turn 18 and had a simple and quick thing they'd do to file for it. Something that should not take more than a month to get finalized. So maybe not entirely automatic, but very simple and straightforward and quick.

That being said, we have the system we have and this woman should obviously have adhered to the one we have...and also her husband should not be voting for the likes of Taco and she should not be "supporting" Taco, either.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

That was the thing my daughter in law ran into... Myanmar doesn't allow dual citizenship, so she had to give up her own citizenship to become a US citizen.

In the end, it's safer for her now because she can visit her family and doesn't have to worry about being immediately blocked re-entering the US.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

The levels of dumb and laziness on her part say she got what she deserved. She could have earned citizenship and she could have become politically informed.