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[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

If "harm" and "less harm" are the only two options, then the only question is how quickly you die. There's the argument that we have to do "harm reduction" in order to buy time to organize for something better, but we've been procrastinating for decades apparently. Since all of history informs us that humans act only when inaction is no longer tenable (and sometimes not even then), really the only material difference between "harm reduction" and accelerationism is, again, the timeline.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

The harm or less harm are thanks to Ordinal voting.

First Past the Post is the absolute worst offender, but every single Ordinal voting system will eventually devolve into a forced choice between this or that.

Thankfully there are Cardinal voting systems. Those always boil down to the word and. For example, I can say that I support getting ice cream, and sandwiches, and a slushy, and even just finishing the route, but not going over that cliff.

My support for any given item is counted independently of my support for any other option.

To see what option wins, you just look at total support.

Different Cardinal systems have their own little quirks, but the key in all of them is that ability to give multiple items identical levels of support.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's not even remotely the same vein of thinking, even though both Ernst and I used the word "die."

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

It's not? The argument in both is that increasing harm doesn't matter because everyone dies in the end, and the timeframe wherein people die thus shouldn't matter to decision-making. Would you like to explain how that's not the same vein of thinking?