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Senior IDF officers admit 'uncalculated' fire on Gaza aid seekers after Haaretz expose
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I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about generalization. Not all black people are thieves, you know? Plenty of people from IDF have spoken up and plenty of jewish people have been protesting against everything that's happening. My point was simply that calling for mass execution of a group of people makes you morally questionable too.
You can’t just ignore the genocide because it makes your point weak.
Black people are born black and cannot change that. Jews are born that way and cannot change it. Nobody is born in the IDF.
What? You literally make no sense, because my point was about genocide. You calling for genocide against a group doing the genocide when said group is also full of people who were forced into IDF and constantly help the media and world see what's truly going on does not make you the morally highest creature.
Americans don't scream "Death to police", they scream "Defund the police". Your choice of words would make you a fine addition to ranking officers of IDF, you get my point?
Do you think it's too extreme to say 'death to nazis'?
Depends what you mean by that. If you mean nazi germany, then yes, killing entire nation because of corrupt leadership is bad, okay? Are we clear on that? The WW2 result was better than what some of you would have done to the Germans. Don't become the person you hate.
You can answer your own question but by changing roles - Can people yell "Kill Palestinians" because of corrupt Hamas leadership? Do you see how stupid that question is?
EDIT: Are you guys acting stupid on purpose?
But they aren't saying death to Israelis when saying death to the IDF. You have to understand the difference between wishing for genocide upon a group of people and wishing for the end of an institution that does nothing but harm and bad.
It's also worth noting that the only right thing to do for a member of the IDF is to fight the IDF.
They are morally obligated to tear down the infrastructure of genocide that they are a part of. The only good IDF soldier is the one who is working in earnest to oppose the IDF. All of the rest of them are cowardly garbage human beings who should probably go to the Hague.
A tremendous number of them probably should be hung until death and then buried at sea with no ceremony. People who do what they do should have even their memories killed.
Again, IDF is mandatory for nearly every Israeli citizen. It's not some random institute, it's core part of Israeli country. And again, for the xth time, my point is about choice of words. I'm not arguing against dissolving of IDF, i'm arguing against lemmy users doing screwed up hate speech which puts this entire platform's future existence on a question line.
It's not hate speech to hate the military of a genocidal apartheid state.
The fact that the military of that state uses conscription to smear shit on everybody who grows up there does not absolve the population from their moral obligation to oppose their government.
Just following orders is a really poor excuse for genocide. You can hate the IDF without calling for genocide. In fact I haven't heard anybody call for genocide in any of these threads except for people supporting the IDF.
Where are you from?
Children are being slaughtered in the thousands by a genocidal regime and you're here spending most of your day tone policing the negative response to it. Speaks volumes about what you stand for
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So wait, you want me to support more genocides and deaths of children, or what exactly are you saying?
Provide an example of a child serving in the IDF
That would be pretty damning in its own right, right? What is this dude even trying to argue?
It seems like concern trolling. "I'm just worried that people will interpret you hating on this genocidal military as if it's exactly the same thing as calling for the death of an ethnic group because only that ethnic group is allowed to participate in this genocidal military!"
It's such a bizarre argument
Concern trolling is exactly what they're doing, you nailed it. Yet another page out of the zio playbook.
Except you keep making shit up from thin air. I never said such things, you said them as a strawman argument.
Speaking of making shit up: provide an example of a child serving in the IDF.