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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I think it was pretty perceptive of people that they can notice us being trapped in a slow decline and voting for chaos to get us off this path for better or worse.

Same thing happened in 2016. When people are disillusioned they vote for change, when the Democrats don't offer positive change then they vote for the Republicans who always cause negative change.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

From the outside looking in, I'm waiting for evidence that Americans want to scrub fascism out of their politics.

I'm not optimistic.

[–] Asafum 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

The problem is the people voting for the fascists don't see it as that and are told by their chosen propaganda outlets that it isn't fascism, it's actually the people on the other side who want to do such horrible horrible things like: provide access to affordable childcare. Gasp!

There's also a lack of understanding of the concept of fascism as related to corporate subservience which a lot of Democrats could be guilty of as well. Unfortunately the shitforbrains SCOTUS ruled corporations are people, money is political speech, and a person's political speech can't be limited: unlimited spending for campaigns.

[–] ReallyAngryNerd@europe.pub 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Even if people are misinformed or don't understand the concept of fascism, they still voted for a rapist. If you vote for a rapist, you are a bad person. You can't spin it any other way. Rape isn't that difficult to understand.

[–] Asafum 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Thats the thing about misinformation/disinformation, they're made to believe he didn't rape anyone and that it's all a "witch hunt." These people think he's gods gift to the earth and that everything he does is correct, that the only arguments against him are lies made by people who want him to be stopped. If they knew it as fact and still voted for him, then yeah they're garbage people for sure.

My father for example, I cannot get one single thing through his head if fox news or Newsmax didn't say it. He still believes they never deport anyone who isn't a violent criminal. Any article I could show him that says otherwise is "a lie." He's brainwashed to believe Republicans are the saviours, the Democrats are the ultimate evil, and the media is largely behind protecting Democrats by lying about everything... :(

[–] ReallyAngryNerd@europe.pub 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's tough. I would be devastated if my parents chose to believe some propaganda 'news' channel over what the sons they raised had to say.

[–] Asafum 4 points 14 hours ago

It's definitely frustrating. He's one of those "I'm always right" types and the propaganda is just confirmation bias for him, so if it reenforces something he already wants to believe. It's "I'm right, and they back it up with their "facts" on Fox, so obviously it's correct."

Honestly most of us live in a mirror reality. We see "them" as misinformed and brainwashed, and they see us in exactly the same way. He won't believe me because he believes I'm just misinformed.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, the rest of the world sees sees the wilful ignorance, and the considerable funds that go into entrenching it.

We also see that Americans don't consider the above to be sufficient reason to show up to vote against heavy handed social engineering designed to harm them.

The rest of the world is at the mercy of every fucking American election cycle, left with fading hope that Americans will pull their heads out of their asses.

[–] ReallyAngryNerd@europe.pub 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Hopefully they isolate themselves so much that the rest of the world will be influenced less by their election cycle.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

It's that pesky superpower detail that complicates matters.