Content jacking and top posting other people's content is really bad for Lemmy. It's also just being a dick to other people making content on the platform.

feed is spammy
divides conversation
chills engagement
makes Lemmy less friendly to posters

This pattern is very common on lemmy, and needs to stop.

This is often used to attack or force migrate conversations from a instance someone doesn't like to another instance they do like. It's offensive by its very nature.

If you want to make a better community, great, do it but not at the expense of other Lemmy posters.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That goes against the fundamental notion that everyone can start a community. Who decides what communities should stay, and which one should not? At the moment, people vote with their participation, everybody makes their own choices. What alternative do you suggest?

Isn't this exactly what we are talking about? Trying to top post another community is stealing interaction, and a method of influencing which communities should not stay.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My stance is

Everyone can start a community
Over time communities with posters who organize between themselves to keep the community alive are more likely to survive.
Communities can crosspost content from other communities
The main differentiator between communities will be how active their posters are, people are going to choose communities based on activities.
Thanks to community consolidation, people can subscribe to only the most active community on a topic (of course, in case of power trip, people should organize to create a new community, see previous pionts)

What I understand your stance is (feel free to correct if I'm wrong)

Everyone can start a community
Content shouldn't be crossposted between communities
First community to post a content have "authorship" of that content
Communities that repost content from other communities should be closed. Admins should close communities that do so.
People will have to subscribe to all the similar communities on one topic to follow all posts related to that topic

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Content shouldn’t be crossposted between communities

At least not systematically, and not within a day of the original posting (so if something becomes topical)

First community to post a content have “authorship” of that content

It's not a dibs system, so organic collisions where two people really want to talk about something is fine. just systematic reposting of EVERYTHING from people without their consent isn't good for lemmy.

Communities that repost content from other communities should be closed. Admins should close communities that do so.

Not closed, the reposters should be be given opportunities to transition to their own content.

People will have to subscribe to all the similar communities on one topic to follow all posts related to that topic

That is a direct aspect of the lemmy model, until such a time as themed communities becomes protocol level. The only way to not have to do this is kill any similar community before it grows.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At least not systematically, and not within a day of the original posting (so if something becomes topical)

So only for OC content, not for news / articles?

The only way to not have to do this is kill any similar community before it grows.

Consolidation is an option

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 week ago

So only for OC content, not for news / articles?

yeah, as a first pass, that seems to be the most contentious thing right now