THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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That’s a suppressor. There’s no such thing as a silencer. Suppressors are important for anyone who uses a gun and can afford them, because they help protect your ears from permanent damage.
Jeez, guy. Everyone knows what they meant.
Gun nuts don't have any chill. "IT'S A MAGAZINE! NOT A CLIP!" is a common one I see. lol I say this as a gun owner myself.
Huh, I thought silencer was a brand name like Kleenex or aspirin.
I'm pretty sure it was in the distant past but I'm not going to do the legwork right now to check.
Yeah, looks like I was mostly right. It was invented by Hiram Maxim, and called the Maxim silencer.
You would be incorrect. "Silencers" is not a brand name, SilencerCo is. Just like Kleens is not a brand name, Kleenex is. But cute try, at least.
This is actually a really impressive amount of pedantry and condescension, and I'd read it again. No notes here.
Ah, yes, technically it's not a brand name like Kleenex, but it is a product name like aspirin.
The Maxim silencer, invented by Hiram Maxim.
William Godfray de Lisle would like a word.
Or you know, ear plugs.
Hey all, this guy thinks gun people don't know about ear plugs.
What?!
So, in a scenario where a law enforcement officer actually has a good reason to fire a weapon indoors, should they ask the suspect to wait for ten minutes while they hand out earplugs to every innocent bystander present? Don't forget to bring extra small earplugs for any infants with their highly sensitive eardrums.
I'm not suggesting that a group of jackbooted thugs like ICE ever manages to find themselves in a scenario where use is force is actually legitimate, but if that's your issue then your comlaint is with the existence of ICE, not with the use of suppressors.
It's a joke guy. Relax
A single gunshot in an indoor space can cause permanent hearing damage, not just to the shooter, but to everyone around them. Especially infants and young children.
Fuck ICE, but the suppressor is not the problem here. It's literally the only part of that image that isn't a problem.
Shooting unprotected is very damaging to your ears and very painful even if it's just one or two shots
You seem to be under the ignorant impression that you have to fire a certain number of shots before ear damage occurs. Ear damage occurs with sounds above 85 dB. An unsuppressed AR-15 is 165-175 dB. Even a single shot can result in permanent ear damage and tinnitus. If you are close enough, it can deafen you. A suppressor can reduce that to around 130 dB. Still enough to damage your ears, but perhaps enough to save you from hearing loss.
Also, I didn't say I was worried about their ears. That's another thing you're mistaken about. More than just nazis have guns. Many leftists do as well. I myself have a AR-15 chambered in .300 Blackout, as well as an AR-15 in 5.56, among other weapons.