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I know this is random. I live in these two countries moving bw them so I wondered.

Mostly I know what people think of each, but I did wonder if there was a difference in opinion here in a more leftist space.

Qatar as the labour exploiting oil nation?

Pakistan the third world country culturally like India with Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists etc?

PS. If you have any question about either, happy to answer.

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[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's a shame, I didn't realize how culturally isolated they were. I appreciate the redirection of my black and white analysis to a more nuanced one. I would always research a topic much more if it wasn't specifically about my general vibes on it.

How do you feel about Qatar's labor abuses such as confiscating passports?

I see that https://rch.qa/qatar-labor-law-can-your-employer-legally-keep-your-passport/ shows this is now strictly illegal, but also understanding how employer employee power dynamics affects legal systems I'm dubious of real change having happened.

In regards to Qatar: Yeah there is some pressure to end it from up top. And the people are afraid of the qatari government, especially if you don't hold a qatari passport.

My dad knows the industry VERY well. The issue hasn't been eradicated. The smaller businesses especially those owned by non qataris (and i won't get into the business structures required since its beneficial to have a qatari have 51% ownership) are too scared to fuck around and find out, yet they do sometimes.

Bigger companies can do whatever tf they want as is the case everywhere in the world.

When I was in school my school took our teachers passports. Thats when I learnt of this rule. Bizzare. But Qatar treat foreigners, particularly south Asians and Africans as disposable.

'Westerners' are valued and seen as human, will be paid 10× what a black or brown person would.