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[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world -5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Extacy is not MDMA but a pill that contains MDMA (and sometimes some nice extras).
MDMA is the pure goodness that you dip your finger into.

Also there is no specific extacy test since MDMA belongs to the amphetamine family (like speed and meth) and they will test for that.
This test result sounds like BS.

Also read the reviews for this testing lab.
And why did he choose that one if he's in Texas?

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Ecstacy is a pill form of MDMA and should not contain extras. It could have MDEA and MDA instead of MDMA, which are very similar. It mostly depends on the chemicals these factories are able to get. The fact that junk pills do contain other stuff like caffeine, doesnt make Ecstacy normally a mix. There are mix pills which contain amphetamine, 2CB or LSD but these are sold under their own, different name.

I don't know if you've ever seen a pill factory from the inside, but I have here in the Netherlands. Also I've seen loads of ecstacy tests, as we are free to test our drugs here.

[–] CarnivorousCouch@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

It's been well over a decade since I've dabbled in this sort of scene, but it was stupid common for "ecstasy" to be adulterated with other substances (often miscellaneous amphetamines) in my region. Everything, mixed or not, would be sold as ecstasy if in tablet form. You'd generally have to look up the pressing on a third-party site to check for quality, if you didn't test yourself (my friends were young and broke). This was in a major coastal city in the United States, for reference.

Not trying to say you're wrong, but just relating why the previous commenter may have had their impression.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world -3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

"Ecstacy is a pill form of MDMA and should not contain extras."
It's illegal so they can do what they want.
Some pills certainly do have extras and are sold as extacy.
I'm from Antwerp, nr 1 in coke use every year and a lot of times for MDMA, as shown in the sewage water tests (also develloped here).
And most extacy is produced here, even weed since they moved from NL when they got targeted.
We also have pill tests at festivals etc showing the extras I said. Not 'junk' like caffeine or whatever.
Maybe that's for countries where drugs are rare and need to fake it.
Here a pil costs a few Euro. Nobody would buy that crap.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

It's nice you think that, but it is false. Pills are actually tested and you can find the results online. As you can see, nearly all ecstacy pills only contain MDMA, only very few contain caffeine or a miniscule amount of byproduct (like 1mg).

So if you have other data showing xtc contains other stuff, please post it.

I've had pills tested since I started partying, which was exactly 20 years ago. I've seen maaaany test results. For work I've been inside discovered and raided pill factories and I've seen the chemicals they used there. I don't know what you Belgians put in your pills, but our Dutch pills are MDMA or MDA, depending on the resources available. And since xtc is probably our biggest export, I assume it won't be much different world wide (although export pills usually contain far lower quantities of MDMA, our pills here are much stronger)

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Adulterants in MDMA

Individuals who use MDMA risk ingesting unknown substances, which are often found in illicitly purchased ecstasy pills, capsules, tablets, and powders. They may think they’re purchasing ecstasy when they are, in fact, buying other substances instead of or in addition to MDMA.10,11 These substances can vary widely, and may include:

Fentanyl. In 2020, more than 10,000 psychostimulant-involved overdose deaths (mostly methamphetamine) also involved synthetic opioids (primarily fentanyl).6
Amphetamines. Amphetamines, such as methamphetamine, can produce similar effects to the stimulant properties of ecstasy. Thus, amphetamines are often sold in place of or with MDMA. Moderate doses can produce adverse health effects, including mood disturbances, anxiety, insomnia, and addiction. High doses can cause overdose and death.2
Para-methoxyamphetamine(PMA)/para-methoxymethamphetamine (PMMA). Both PMA and PMMA are illicit stimulants that have been detected in samples of MDMA or masqueraded as MDMA entirely. Case reports have found evidence of PMA- and PMMA-related deaths in individuals who use ecstasy.2
Dextromethorphan (DXM). An ingredient found in over-the-counter cough suppressants, DXM can cause a “high” similar to ecstasy when taken in high doses due to its dissociative/euphoric effects. However, adverse effects at high doses include drowsiness, elevated heart rate, poor muscle control, involuntary eye movements, and an increased risk of heatstroke.2
Ketamine. Ketamine is a dissociative anesthetic with hallucinogenic properties. It is often discovered in contaminated MDMA samples.2
Caffeine. Caffeine may be added to MDMA to bulk up the sample and because its stimulant properties may create effects that are similar (but milder) to MDMA.2
Eutylone and other synthetic cathinones. Colloquially referred to as bath salts, eutylone and other synthetic cathinones have been detected in MDMA samples. In fact, the supply of eutylone increased so rapidly in the United States from 2017-2021, that authorities issued public alerts about the potential risk of overdose associated with it. Studies show that roughly 1 in 10 eutylone-involved deaths in 2020, had evidence of current or past MDMA use but no toxicology findings of MDMA, which supports the idea that individuals unintentionally ingest eutylone when they think they are taking MDMA.12    

I started partying 20 years before you when you could take pills and cops just let you drive on after doing the alcohol test. 😂 They didn't know shit for years.
Also years before MDMA was commonly sold to end users.
I never tested pills, I got them from reliable sources.
But from experience with other substances you know and recognise their presence occasionally, some trippy, some speedy.
And confirmed by others using the same.
No test needed.

I'm very surprised you don't have any results showing that.

Nobody will ruin their name or product by putting large amounts of totally different substances in it with unforseen and dangerous consequences but besides color, shape and logo, a touch of something speedy or hallucinogenic as unique selling point sounds like something to expect.
There is not only plain chocolate, but chocolate with nuts, fruits, caramel, etc...

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

You copied a binch of text. Source?

I know stuff is being sold as XTC, which turns out not to be XTC. That's still not XTC. That is called a scam.

When they add stuff to it, like 2CB for example, they don't sell it as XTC but under a different name. If a dealer sells it under the XTC name, he's mislabeling his own product and making a loss as these combo pills usually are more expensive.

I started partying 20 years before you when you could take pills and cops just let you drive on after doing the alcohol test.

I was a late bloomer, I started partying when I was 18 and now I'm 38. I also have experience with cops just checking alcohol and nothing else, I just never drove while being on drugs. Because that is fucking stupid, I've had friends die that way. But since you started 20 years before me, you're in you're 50's nearing 60's if I'm counting right, correct?

I never tested pills, I got them from reliable sources.

Right. So your source had them tested and told you the results?

But from experience with other substances you know and recognise their presence occasionally, some trippy, some speedy.
And confirmed by others using the same.
No test needed.

There is a wide variety of trip substances so how do you know which one is in it? Did you know MDA also has a tripping effect? Bar tables, crowd control fences and everyone wearing glasses happen only with XTC, not any other trip drug. The pills which have these effects, I don't know if you remember but like the orange Q base pills years ago, often have very high MDA quantities. Back in the days they sometimes added some amphetamine but they also added glass fibers so it would work faster by damaging your esophagus. But the speedy effect mostly came from how the process was done with forming the MDMA or MDA with the pill powder substance, which is what is also used in medicine to form pills.

I know exactly what you mean when it comes to experience. This one is more trippy, that one is more energetic. I've had a wide scala of substances over the years, the good old classics and many new designer ones. You say you didn't need the data. I did see the data and saw experts explain why things are the way they are. I find data and experts more reliable than my own experience because there can be so much more to it I don't know.

And please, especially in these days with the rise of designer drugs and trends from the Americas being pushed over here (like meth, oxycodon and fentanyl), have your stuff tested. Or make sure your trusted sourse had it tested, and doesn't just rely on their source like you are relying on them. Sadly we need to be more careful we will actually get what we want. But the point is, XTC is MDMA (or a variant like MDA) in pill form and shouldn't contain any other substance. If it does, it's dangerous as people don't know what they are taking.

So far the main issue is that the quality is going down due to harder to get resources. I could see this to turn into a future where they add other stuff into it, which I hope they don't, but so far this mixing thing has mostly happened under different names (like tucybe in South America).