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The home, which was run by an order of Catholic nuns and closed in 1961, was one of many such institutions that housed tens of thousands of orphans and unmarried pregnant women who were forced to give up their children throughout much of the 20th century.

In 2014, historian Catherine Corless tracked down death certificates for nearly 800 children who died at the home in Tuam between the 1920s and 1961 — but could only find a burial record for one child.

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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Didn't she go full Islam afterwards though? Like... Bruh.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

Kinda, though I think her idea of Islam was about as idiosyncratic as her view of Christianity.

She was a seeker, and someone who could only do things her own way.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Not immediately... She was pretty much blacklisted for like 20+ years

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

~~No. Show your work.~~

I have been educated today.

Fuckin' weird move, Sinead.

[–] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

HUH. Okay, fair enough.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oconnor was a victim of child sex abuse. Can you blame her for going after her church which actively hides child rape and murder? I think whatever your views are on Islam, you should let her have this choice without judgement. Shaking your finger at rape victims is.. not a great response here.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can you blame her for recognizing and turning her back on a harmful patriarchal religion that victimizes women and children and turning to… Islam? Yeah, I can.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I don’t. Her talent doesn’t make her anything special outside of that talent. A person can do the wrong thing for the right reasons.

Also, it happened during a time when Muslims were facing torment from the outside world because of 9/11. She wasn’t the only artist to convert to Islam during that time, but most of the ones I remember reading about at least had some potential connection to the religion through their ancestry.

Some people cannot fathom a world without religion, even when they see the destruction in what they’re familiar with. If you spend your heart fighting one enemy, it’s a lot easier to miss the crimes of the enemy next door, especially if that enemy is a perceived underdog.

Edit:

2018 is when she converted apparently, but she still would have seen and felt the post 9/11 world. I don’t know much of anything so disregard everything I said if you want to or tell me why I’m an idiot if I deserve it.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I question your judgement, and hers, but I also think people should be able to make poor choices so long as bystanders aren't hurt. If she's funding jihad, that's a problem (and I don't know if she is or not). If she's living and letting live, I'm not going to criticize. I'll make my own, different, poor choices.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Islam in and of itself is not problematic, not anymore than Christianity at least. Like with literally every religion, it's the strict conservatives within the religion that are the ones who enforce ridiculous mores and dress codes and other things that are detrimental to the health of the followers of that religion.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's just funny that she could see the cruelty towards children and women in one religion and not another that is equally culpable.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Again, religion does not equal church. She spent a lot of time as a Catholic trying to make other Catholics see the evils within the church. I think she just became tired of being the town cryer in a world that doesn't give a shit. And Islam, the religion and belief system not the various organized churches, might have held some amount of peace for her soul. Criticizing her for converting and not starting a whole new crusade to stop the myriad of abuse found within the various sects of Islam is just silly. Especially since there are already a million voices pointing out the faults in the Islamic churches already.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sinéad AKA Shuhada begs to differ

"This is to announce that I am proud to have become a Muslim. This is the natural conclusion of any intelligent theologian’s journey. All scripture study leads to Islam. Which makes all other scriptures redundant. I will be given (another) new name. It will be Shuhada’"

— Shuhada’ Davitt (@MagdaDavitt77) AKA Sinéad O'Connor

She left main stream catholicism before the SNL incident: "The 51-year-old was previously ordained a priest by a breakaway Catholic sect, the Irish Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church, in the late 1990s" source: Irish Post

She was a troubled being (who wouldn't be with her childhood?), so not all her decisions are relatable. Converting to main stream (Sunni) Islam still sticks out as weird.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, you are still pinning her for her belief in Islam because members of Islam have been and continue being vile detestable people. But they aren't vile detestable people because of their belief in Islam any more than the Christians, Catholic or otherwise, are evil because of their belief in Christianity. They are vile and detestable people regardless of their belief. Their religious beliefs isn't the source, though it does end up being a justification for those acts. But that's just sophistry used to cover their own prejudices.

She dumped Christianity and chose a different religion. That doesn't make her culpable for the evils of that religion any more than anyone else is for the deeds of others who believe in the same religion they do.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, No, and No.

I mildly criticise her for switching from one flawed main stream to another flawed main stream. You incorrecty mixed Sunni with various sects of islam. 85% of Muslims are Sunni, 48.1% of Christians are Catholic.

My real issue is that both denominations are wildly incompatible with her choice of lifestyle so these choices are weird to me. They certainly did not help her mental health.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think her switching religions had a detrimental effect on her mental health. Probably quite the opposite. And it really doesn't matter that she switched from one mainstream religion to another mainstream religion. It's not like joining an offshoot's going to be any better or worse. She was seeking peace. Maybe she found it, maybe she didn't, that's for her to decide in whatever afterlife she ended up in.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Did you check at least the health section of her Wikipedia page?

It did not help and she clearly hasn’t found peace.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Did you read anything else? She converted to Islam in 2018/2019. Her mental breakdown happened in 2017 and was mostly a result of losing custody of her kid.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago

Did you read anything else? She converted to Islam in 2018/2019. Her mental breakdown happened in 2017 and was mostly a result of losing custody of her kid.

Right, one mental break about sums up her mental issues. /s

So you didn't read shit and now disingenuously just use info you consider helpful stanning islam while achieving the opposite. Please go on, every little step weaking any religion is worthwile.

In the unlikely even anyone has read this far: Please check out the health section of her Wikipedia page and compare it to the sad comment above.