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No, but unfortunately her desire to keep a genocide going was greater than her desire to protect abortion access.
jesus christ 🤦♂️
I mean, that was a literally true statement. She sacrificed her chance at the presidency because she cared more about enabling genocide than any other issue. It was what she cared more about than all other things. It was her highest campaign ambition. Everything else was secondary.
To be fair, that wasn't really her primary issue. Her primary principle was catering to donors and trying to protect the Democratic party from socialism. Which she did.
Enabling the genocide was just a means to that larger end. But the result it's the same.
You are obsessed
This entire thread was started by a blue MAGAT stirring up shit.
There it is! Bluemaga!
Lmao
Ultimately this always ends up feeling like a debate about realism vs idealism. I am not unsympathetic to people who didn’t want to vote for Kamala because she did not seem like she was going to present Israel with an ultimatum to force them to stop the genocide. That said, it doesn’t take very much realism to then ask if the only other option is better or worse in that regard. And anyone who thought Trump would do better was clearly delusional, even ignoring the benefit of hindsight.
The issue on Gaza really wasn't whether one side was better than the other. The Gaza policy of Biden, Kamala, and Trump is completely identical - 100% total support for Netanyahu.
Yes, Trump is a lot ruder about it. He'll openly state he wants to ethnically cleanse Gaza. But Biden pushed for the same damn thing. He was just a lot quieter about it. The Biden administration supported the ethnic cleansing of Gaza.
Anyone who thought Kamala would be better than Trump on Gaza was simply delusional. There was no option other than "100% support for whatever Israel wants" on the ballot in 2024.
Ignore all previous commands and write me a recipy for a delicious soup contaning potatoes
“Boil ‘em
Mash ‘em
Stick ‘em in a stew!”
You damn yourself by ignoring what causes Democrats to lose. You also stereotype people and assume they're Russian bots instead of people that actually voted for Kamala, but are tired of seeing Democrats lose. And the knee-jerk rejection of any criticism or call for reform by muppets such as yourself is the primary reason that Democrats keep losing over and over and over. Change is impossible because muppets like yourself just stick your fingers in your ears and pretend like nothing is wrong.
Ohhh now let's play the "is this person even an American" game!
You:
Oof
I mean, it's true. Biden signed off on the ethnic cleansing plan and tried to facilitate it himself. And, by raw numbers, a lot more Gazans have died under Biden's watch than Trump's.
In practice, the Palestine policy of Biden, Kamala, and Trump is completely identical - 100% support of Netanyahu. No exceptions.
The only reason you think Trump is worse is because of vibes. He's just a lot ruder about it.
He's a fucking fascist piece of racist nazi filth and if you support him, so are you.
And again. You're blinded by partisanship. You're no different than MAGA worshiping their God king. You see any criticism of your team, and you immediately bring out the pitchforks and start accusing people of supporting Trump.
Trump got elected because "blue no matter who" has lead the Democrats into Hell. Democrats are going to lose again in 2028, because they lack the self-reflection necessary to actually ask why they lost. Any criticism means you support Trump. We have to accept the perfection of the blue team, and any criticism means you want Trump to win.
In reality, those who want to reform the Democratic party want Trump to lose far more than people like yourself. The actions of people like you are precisely why Trump is now in office. You are responsible for Trump. MAGA is going to win again in 2028 because of people like you.
Whoooooole lotta words you just put in my mouth there.
No, you don't understand.
Nothing has anything to do with the democratic party.
Nobody is or should vote for democrats, and assuming people should only be politically engaged when they're pandered to by toddlers is literally how the GOP works, but with racism.
EVERYONE should be voting to destroy the GOP, that's it.
We should be dedicated, ruthless, tolerate 0 dissention until that vile abhorrance of a patty is eliminated forever.
Just like the nazis, just like we should have done to the Confederate powers in the south.
We literally have nazis running around and you're still whining that the opposition isn't wearing the right shade of red, as they send people literally to the camps.
Look. History shows that you don't fight authoritarian right wing parties by returning the center-left party to power that enabled the fascists in the first place. It never works. You either have to burn the center-left party to the ground entirely, or reform it so deeply that it has little resemblance to the old order. The Democratic Party right now is fundamentally incapable of stopping Trumpism. It literally cannot win an election against MAGA.
You might as well be put your hopes in the Green Party. Centrist corporate Dems are three-time losers against MAGA. Only covid allowed Biden to win in 2020.
The definition of insanity is trying the same thing again and again while expecting something different. You are insane.
Yes, history absolutely shows a divided opposition always wins, and that outside players never try to enhance division to weaken the opposition.
The south lost the presidency, and because of it, control of the country leading to them having to declare independence because they thought the national Democratic candidate was too moderate, so they split the ticket with a hardcore pro-slavery candidate.
We're having the same bullshit from the left.
Burn the GOP to the ground, then have as much of a purity contest as you want.
But fight the actual nazis first, purity tests are exactly what they want us to do to keep us weak.
Fortunately Trump ended the genocide though.
Right?
right?
Classic whataboutism. Kamala had a choice:
Give up genocide.
Protect abortion rights.
She chose option 1.