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This is what is so dumb. Safety is only ever considered for the people INSIDE the vehicle. It's insane.
Pedestrian fatalities have been increasing in the last few years, even as vehicle (i.e. inside the vehicle) fatalities have been trending down.
That's America for you. It's also the reason American cars can't be sold in Japan without modifications.
I mean, also because American cars have the steering wheel on the wrong side.
A lot of today's safety standards are based on pedestrian protection, that's why pop up headlights aren't a thing anymore for example.
Dude. You can't look at modern American vehicles and tell me they are designed with pedestrian protection in mind.
I mean... It's regulations that are in place, I don't make the rules, all I know is that the shape of cars need to respect certain criterias to help pedestrian safety in case they get hit, including making sure they're deflected on the hood and not under the car for example. Crash avoidance systems, obstacle warnings will be mandatory in 2029 and that's a US regulation...
It really feels like people on here only think about trucks that are exempted from certain regulations when talking about cars, well I look at the roads around me and not all vehicles are trucks.
The US has no ped safety rules for the front end of cars/trucks. Europe on the other hand…
And most cars are built to sell in both markets, crazy right?
I don't know what physical reality you live in that the snub nose and lifted style vehicles on the roads today, not just limited to trucks, is going to "deflect" a pedestrian anywhere but directly into the pavement.
"built to sell in both markets" my ass!! American brands are virtually non-existent over there and better yet have completely discontinued any remotely normal sized vehicle that would "sell in both markets"!! If they were "built to sell in both markets" Trump wouldn't be flirting with trade war just to somehow force our shitty inflated cars to sell in Europe. Beyond EU regulations, Europeans are harder to sell to at american prices because far more of them have the option not to own a car. Americans do not have that option!
Jesus christ you're fucking delusional. Hey dumbass!! Capitalists don't give a fuck about what you or any market or regulation wants, they care about making money!! If by some 'supply and demand' miracle that ends up being what you wanted in the first place, then it's a happy accident. But most of the time, at a certain level of market saturation; they will just use their vast amounts of wealth to convince you, by hook or by crook, that "what you want" is actually "what will make us the most money". They are not the same thing, learn the fucking difference!!!
Cars from non US manufacturers still exist in the US and they're built to fit both markets. Holy hell I'm tired of having to spell things out.
Look at a Toyota Prius and tell me it's a lifted monstrosity with a hood that sends pedestrians under it.
Lmfao. We're not talking about foreign manufacturers in the US, we're talking about US manufacturers in foreign markets.
We're talking about pedestrian safety regulations.
Pop-up headlights = bad
Vehicle that sits up high enough to strike you in the fucking head = OK
Not all vehicles are truck
Manufacturers intentionally make trucks bigger in the US to dodge restrictions, they also don't sell them in Europe so they can do whatever they want on that front
So you think a mini truck with the front completely flat is any better?
My comment is about disallowing pop-up headlights in the name of pedestrian safety while allowing these oversized pickups and even lift kits. Also things like brush guards, which are extremely dangerous to pedestrians even if they do serve a purpose off-road.
I'll be honest here and say that I don't know enough about the crash dynamics of the cab-over design of these mini-trucks to have an opinion on it. Could be that they are really bad too.
Was the old Volkswagen Bus a menace to pedestrians? I don't know.
Some are all computer now!
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There is no American regulation against pop-up headlights.
https://blog.betterautomotivelighting.com/why-dont-cars-have-pop-up-headlights-anymore
Guess what, manufacturers want to be able to sell their vehicles in multiple markets so they follow European regulations for cars made to sell in the US.