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The People know a bad faith prosecution when they see it and are willing to pay what they can to help.
Most of the people supporting him are convinced he's guilty, but think that his murder makes him a hero.
Considering all the details that have come to light I genuinely don’t believe beyond a shadow of a doubt he’s guilty, since they want to kill him they need to convince beyond a shadow of a doubt. That said, personally? I don’t care if he did it or not, if he did, good, if he didn’t I’m glad who ever did do it got away, presuming Luigi doesn’t die for it
I don't think he's guilty. The evidence is tampered, improperly collected, and flimsy. There is "reasonable" doubt, not the kind of evidence to lock someone up over. The way he was paraded around made it clear he's just some random dude. You might find me with manifesto too lol, I also hate rich CEOs. Like half the country does.
TBH I'd rather donate to the prosecution at this point. Leaves a bad feeling in the mouth when some rich boy murderer gets better chances just because he's got an online following, I assume this is how people felt about OJ Simpson.
Marx and Engels were both rich.
the fact that he has money is irrelevant to people’s feelings about him
and… better chances? are you fucking joking? the prosecution is asking for the death penalty for (allegedly) killing 1 dude
even if he did it, that’s not justice - that’s making an example out of him… that’s retribution that far outweighs the crime
No point in arguing with someone who comes to Lemmy to support the establishment. Downvote and move on
Being against Luigi doesn't support the establishment.
Being for Luigi doesn't oppose it.
Homie’s comment was 100% pro establishment authoritarian baloney
If Luigi wanted to oppose the establishment he would have shot one of the lawmakers who create and protect the broken healthcare system instead of some random goon operating in it.
But he’s innocent until proven guilty
The bad faith prosecution is proof they don’t care.
They arrested a patsy.
We'll see what the jury decides, but the evidence against him is overwhelming and he has no alibi.
What evidence? The trial hasn’t begun!
They shared “evidence” with the media that his defense counsel had no access to.
This is a bad faith prosecution with reasonable doubt baked in.
Will a judge dismiss the charges with prejudice? That’s what is warranted here.
While the court has yet to present their arguments and the jury won't make a decision for quite some time, we still have lots to go on. We unfortunately have been following this story for months because of rabbid lemmings like you constant flooding the feed with your mangione fetishism.
Luigi has an online history of reading books about radical political ideology and leaving radicalized comments and reviews such as his four star review of the manifesto of famous serial killer Ted Kaczynski LINK HERE. Luigi stopped talking to family and friends for months before the event. Luigi was seen on camera near the crime renting a scooter. He wore the exact clothes and backpack he was caught with. The victim was shot with a gun matching the one found on Luigi's person and an attachment that Luigi personally designed on his laptop and printed from his own 3D printer. He was also found with a handwritten note showing a deep fixation and obsession with healthcare individuals and talking about his own actions. He spent days travelling away from the crime while having done absolutely nothing in New York, no personal business.
If it wasn't Luigi Mangione then wtf was he doing there? Why does the Altoona local cops have a handwritten note, the murder weapon, and $20,000 cash to plant?
That is not evidence bro.
That is some media Astro turfing.
Evidence has a chain of custody and must be entered into court with both parties having a chance to object.
There is no proof that he had :
A murder weapon
A confession note
$20k in cash on him
Just a claim from a bad faith state.
Wait until the trial. He’s innocent until proven guilty BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT
Bad faith prosecution is reasonable doubt my guy.
The Media created Mangione's goodreads profile, reviewed 52 books, and posted his review of Industrial Society and Its Future 11 months before the murder in January 2024?
The Media gave Altoona local police $20,000, the murder weapon, and a note signed by Luigi Mangione to plant? You can't say the $20,000 and weapon don't exist when his lawyers are asking the court to throw them out as evidence.
No. The state is aggressively lying to the media to frame the poor man.
They are not presenting evidence in court like a good faith prosecution.
They are trying to incriminate him in the court of public opinion.
This is a bad faith prosecution. They are breaking the rules.
It is enough for reasonable doubt in a juror.
Enough for an impartial judge to dismiss the charges with prejudice.
Stop trying to make it seem like it’s more complicated than it is : rich man murdered. Someone had to pay. They picked Luigi. Started the bad faith railroad prosecution.
Here we are.
You're instigating a conspiracy that a powerful group controls the police and created a suspect out of thin air as some sort of convoluted psyop
but I'm the one making it seem like it's more complicated because I think a guy broke the law, fled, and got caught by law enforcement?
Yes. The government and the police are out of control. That is what I’m saying.
If they had the right guy, they wouldn’t act in bad faith to incriminate him in the court of public opinion, like every other murder case where they think they got the tight guy.
They don’t want to have the case tossed out on procedural violations.
But not this time. They just don’t care.
The nyc felon mayor himself is involved. The felon president himself is involved and directed the federal prosecutors to seek the death penalty.
And you think there’s no conspiracy?
Wow. Wanna buy a bridge?
It would be rare for a first degree murder, categorized by premeditation, planning, and afterthought, to not pursue the death penalty. Luigi is pleading innocent despite being caught fleeing with a gun and $20,000 cash to live off of while on the run.
The people making examples of him are the ones pushing him as some sort of saint and martyr to stoke violence and lawlessness specifically in the west.
He wasn't caught with a gun. A cop searched his bag at the scene, took it to the station, "found" a gun in the front pocket there, and then turned it in as evidence.
So then you're offering the alternative theory that the local cops in Altoona Pennsylvania had $20,000, a handwritten manifesto note signed by Luigi Mangione, and the murder weapon to plant?
I'm going from what his lawyers said, per this story: https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/28/us/luigi-mangione-evidence-illegal-search
His bag was illegally seized in the restaurant (no warrant or probable cause) and searched later, when they found a lot of convenient evidence. After a massive, sudden manhunt that was at serious risk of turning up empty-handed.
You just sent me 600+ words of pure nothing, maybe try to use your own thoughts for a change?
Warrantless searches are illegal in Pennsylvania for homes and vehicles, they're expected to search the suspects person during an arrest. The Altoona local police don't have any skin off their teeth if an FBI manhunt turns up empty. Yes, he did have a ton of convenient evidence, because he had been fleeing the area of the crime scene for several days without rest. Something pretty unusual among innocent people, imo.
...how do you struggle with 600 words, and yet post so much online?
I posted a link to a news story that mentioned the process of picking him up, mentioning grabbing the bag and processing it later, just as I said was done.
Here's another, where his defense attorney talks about how his backpack was searched away from the restaurant where he was arrested before the evidence was found. Unfortunately, it also has some words: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/23/unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-trial-evidence
If every comment I replied to included an extra 600 words I'd be a lot less engaged with the conversation, that's for sure.
Less than you are here, how?