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There's another American in Norway on this hellsite‽ Although I'm a second-generation immigrant rather than an "expat".
I don't think I've really "messed with" people when they ask those sorts of questions, not yet at least. I just say openly that I voted PSL, that a lot of people are disillusioned with the two-party system, and that I'm worried about my family and friends and all the other people trapped in this deteriorating situation.
Yeah I think there are about 18,000 Americans in Norway. A big chunk of that is Mormons. More Trump supporters than i thought too.
For me I can't really hide my American accent and I'm not fluent in Norwegian yet. It just gets really annoying because I don't want to talk about politics every five goddamn seconds. A Norwegian trump supporter tried to Amerisplain me last night and I about lost it.
Love the idea of pretending that I don't know who he is.
Mormonism is the only religion I'm straight up bigoted against and everything new I learn about them just reinforces my prejudice
Yeah I tried not to be bigoted against Mormonism but every Mormon author I've read writes really simplistically, has weird attitudes toward sex.
And (spoilering disturbing content)
spoiler
Wtf is going on with Mormons and pedofilia?!Stephanie Meyer: Twilight has a lot of it.
Orson Scott Card: wrote a book (Hart's Hope) that opens with a graphic depiction of it, justifies it, and the next chapter goes into how "wicked" the child victim is
So yeah now I'm biased against Mormons
It's Christianity with an American settler spin on it, deeply evil concept
The word trump, incidentally, is defined by NAOB as
Of course, this word is not pronounced like Norwegians pronounce the name Trump ("Trømp"), but it is still a little funny.
A strat I've seen a lot of people use in that situation is to just pretend they're Canadian, but I couldn't do that, frankly. I guess I just don't like making that part of myself invisible.
Absolutely, absolutely. I think I might have a higher tolerance for talking politics than most people, but Norwegians' fondness of hounding Yankees with political question after political question is one of the things that led me to develop my own current theories about the interplay of Europe and Seppoland. Like the reason why Americans in Norway get these questions is ultimately because Norwegians can on a deep level sense that their country is entirely beholden to the whims of another country whose policies they have no say in, but without any actual theory to make sense of this situation, this sort of deep-seated insecurity about the New Master's actions basically turns into an obsession with Seppoland's politics — and in turn Americans in Norway are turned into "fetishes" of the current vassal relationship, if that makes sense.
Seppoland, naturally, benefits from this arrangement: if anyone who tries to resign from settlerism is soon met with crowds of people who act Deeply Weirdly about the ex-settler's background, leading the ex-settler to feel frustrated and alienated, like they just can't fit in and can't carve out a life outside of the settler-colonial paradigm, then resigning from settlerism is made all the more difficult. This "McAfeeization" of settlerism becomes especially important during crises of the colonial system, where settlers' loyalty to the project cannot be so readily bought with "treats".
This is at least my current understanding.
Jesus Christ, tell me about it. Young men are turning increasingly rightward, so there's a lot more Norwegian Redcaps than there used to be, and they are painful. Just completely disconnected from reality and their own interests. They lick boots that even liberals wouldn't lick, and Norwegian liberals fucking love to lick boots, so that's saying something.
I can pass fortunately. I know enough Canadians and can emulate the accent. I have traveled up there a lot as well.
That explains so much.
I worry about that, I saw it happen in the US. The brainrot with US algorithms and social media is out of control.
Honestly, I wouldn't expect most Norwegians to be so fine-tuned to the differences between American and Canadian accents, nor so acutely aware of the popular culture and current issues of Canada, for that much effort to need to be put into passing as Canadian.
This is why I've been trying to push people to join the fediverse, especially locally-owned servers. The way things stand, if Norway is so reliant on Seppo tech with Seppo algorithms, all the culture war brainrot nonsense ends up much more easily imported.
— Apropos "brainrot," I translated an article the other day about how "hip youngsters" watch A Minecraft Movie in English for the memes, while families taking their kids watch the Norwegian dub. This country has totally fucked language politics.
Oh good god, the whole point of wanting to emigrate is THEY’RE the people I’m trying to get away from.
Mormons actually have high percentage ancestry from Denmark, because they went there to proselytise. I guess its a traditions thing.
Usually the trump supporters are Americans here. There isn't a lot but if they are a white dude then yeah...
Last night was the first Norwegian one. Probably early 20's.
Makes three of us
Pog!