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most regulations exist because corporations suck.
Some exist simply to screw people over or charge them money for something they shouldn't have in the first place.
See: Regulations around building structures on private property.
Maybe I'm alone in this one but I don't think I should need to get the cities approval or pay them a licensing fee to build a shed or a tree house in private property. They can lick my sweaty taint for all I care.
Except when that shed catches a fire and that spreads to your neighbour. Or a part of your tree house breaks off and by freak accident hits neighbour on the other side of fence.
Laws are not written for perfect scenario. Laws are written to prevent the bad scenarios.
Yes.... Because telling my mom she has to pay the county thousands for a new garden shed, wood shed and chicken coop in her backyard (15 acres btw) is really preventing catastrophe for the neighbors that are literally miles away.
If the regulations can't be written or upheld in a way that allows for property owners to do their own things on their land then they need to be written in a different way or given exception clauses which they currently do not have.
Not everyone lives in a suburb where they can see what their neighbors are cooking for dinner every night. If your property is booty cheek to booty cheek with the neighbors house then sure I can see where you're coming from, but a lot of people have a lot of land far away from others and they are told they can't do x in the middle of nowhere without paying the government some bullshit fee or they are outright denied.
You don't own your land like that, you basically rent it from the government for the price of property taxes, and because you do it that way, you get better protections and deals and things you can do for your "ownership" than a typical tenant/landlord. You also get the money you pay into the mortgage/land when you resell it, another huge advatange over real rentals.
Whatever you put in the ground, including mercury for gold mining, has broad impacts and we should indeed regulate that for everyone. No one wants mercury in their well water.
Idk what's going on with your mom/her county, but usually structures like that just mean the property isn't able to get financing. What specifically is their issue with her sheds? I've never heard of such a thing, even for partially collapsed barns, unless they live in a HOA. And further, why would she pay the COUNTY anything? Are they building it?
It depends on the state and what you built, but there are people who have entire houses they live in built illegally. Property just can't be insured and can only be sold for cash. They dont get fines though.
California. Sierra Nevada mountains in the middle of nowhere. She contacted the county to let them know she was building some small structures and they said she had to pay of bunch of fees for Ricky tacky bullshit that probably didn't apply to her. Later she learned that everyone that lives out there just does whatever they want and they never notify the county prior. The entire region operates under the whole "better to ask forgiveness than permission" motto.
Since she called the county had us harassed by inspectors and police for months growing up. Even got one of our neighbors fined for an illegal structure on his property since they spotted it while driving down the road to our place.
This was years ago now, but it still really pissed me off.
See that's the problem though. They claimed it was a hazard to have a tool shed next to our garden when it absolutely was not. If the regulations can be abused by greedy or evil people then they are shitty regulations.
They knew she didn't have the money for a lawyer to fight them on the bullshit application of their regulations. Single mom with two boys on a teacher's salary and she didn't have the time or money to argue with them.
The property had several old sheds scattered around when we moved there but we tore them down as they were all rotted and falling apart.
On one hand, grass still burns and idiots are still idiots. But I also see your point and honestly, it is kinda weird these are not relaxed country side...
Most people that live a ways from any city just do it without asking and nobody from the county ever drives by to see it since it's in the middle of fuckin nowhere.
My mom was trying to do things by the book and got fucked for it. THAT is bullshit.
Who builds those sheds? Does that person know what s/he does? Are those sheds build with the right material? Can it withstand fire? Is there enough safety to use them or are they death traps?
I can go on but I think you understand the point.
Even those are based on people doing it wrong in the past and endangering themselves and others.
If it's on private property who gives a shit. If your idiot son wants to build a structurally questionable tree house and the parents don't do anything about it and he dies that's on them.
I totally understand if they are building shit on a property line and it could fall into the neighbors house or something but most of the time I've seen regulations used against private property owners they are building simple structures hundreds of feet away from neighbors or the edge of property and the government should have absolutely zero say over those types of things.
At that point it's just government overreach and I don't care for it one bit.
it's on all of us, because all the money and effort that went into educating and raising that kid is wasted. Plus the rippling effects outward from everyone who knew the kid grieving.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. So because it might make his classmates sad if he dies he's not allowed to do what he wants on his parents property with his parents permission?
Sounds like some HOA bullshit.
If I'm on my land I'm gonna do whatever I want. I'll get drunk and do donuts on my lawn. Maybe I'll set off 10 pounds of tannerite in my backyard because that's what people do in the middle of nowhere.
I understand that if anything I do on my property somehow ends up effecting others then I can be held liable, but assuming it doesn't everyone needs to fuck off.
Should my mom not have allowed me to practice my drums in the barn because the audio was escaping the property and the neighbors could hear faint drumming in the middle of the day sometimes?
Parents often take time off from work to grieve. Classes are often disrupted when a student dies abruptly. This isn't Skyrim where someone dies and forty seconds later it's "Must be hearing things". Plus, as I said, letting the kid die means the resources spend raising and educating them are wasted.
My point is that "oh if he dies it only affects the family" is stupid.
~~[mean words]~~ Edit: I take that back. I'm hangry. I don't like rugged individualism but that was uncalled for
Non sequitur.
Fires don't respect property lines.
Rescue workers still have to deal with the mayhem (and risks you have created) if you do something stupid on your own property.
Some of us have human empathy.
It's a shed in the middle of nowhere. What fire code could it possibly be breaking that all the other structures out there aren't also already breaking? Good lord have you never lived outside of a city?
It's a big empty field in the middle of 15 acres of woods. Building a shed next to the garden ain't gonna hurt anyone any more or less than the house itself or any of the neighbors many sheds and structures built right into the woods on their private property all up and down that road.
And what does empathy have to do with anything? I'm not going to tell my neighbors what they can and cannot do on their land. If their kid died building a bad tree house that does suck for that kid and the family, but it is not my or your place to tell them what they can and cannot do on their land. Kids die all the time riding dirtbikes and quads on private property. Should we outlaw that too because it might end badly?
I prefer leaving people alone to do what they want and I want to be left alone to do what I want. I do not understand why yall are so eager to jump to restrictions and happily crawling under a boot.
Let's say that one is in the middle of nowhere. Every other place there is also in the middle of nowhere? If they make an exception with one place the rest of the people will sue for not having the same right. And where does the line get drawn? Because once you start with exceptions the next one will say the line has to move again.