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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 132 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The real money is in AWS, azure,GCP. No one cares about your iPad. Tariff the big 3 hosting providers and see how quickly shit hits the fan.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Bonus: It might make some companies move to non-US hosters, making their data way safer.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I've switched to Hetzner and I'm super happy. Fuck DigitalOcean and their ever increasing prices.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I'm at Hetzner für 10-15 years now.

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Put a tariff on the companies that was pro-Trump, and who was at his inauguration.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Would probably end the Internet faster than China can cut intercontinental cables. I'm here for it but the fallout would be positively insane.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 7 points 18 hours ago

Of course it would not.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are plenty of providers, this is a little reactionary. I've worked with a local data center for hosting in every state I've lived in.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It's not about the providers, it's about the move. Companies will need to migrate their infrastructure to another platform which (let's be honest) likely will not have the bandwidth / rack space / hardware to support the influx of users. Companies will self host? Okay sure: time to spin up internal clusters, train employees, provision additional bandwidth / connections. And naturally - this will all go off without a hitch. Like flipping a switch.

And we need to remember that many of these services rely on each other so one goes down: they take each other out.

[–] person1@lemm.ee 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

inertia is a thing, but just by having new EU projects avoid the big three you'd already have done a world of good to the IT ecosystem.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

100%

Germany is providing an open source solution to gsuite (which I haven't looked at yet) but am told it's pretty good. More open and more choice is great.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That entirely depends on who deeply they've locked themselves into a single-vendor set of services. If they used an abstraction tool to hide vendor-specific implementation detail, and were moderately smart, it'd take little besides minor config changes, redeployment and some regression testing.

Source: I've done it.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

were moderately smart

This is mostly the problem in a lot of cases. A lot of companies don't pay you to be smart... they pay you to be "efficient" which normally means cheap.

Good and skilled people may be in a lot of these companies... but their hands may be tied in terms of choices.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is why you give notice; this isn't an overnight thing. If anything, this would help strengthen and decentralize hosting platforms while giving a huge amount of business to companies to help them migrate. I think the real shake is going to be those locked into provide IP like Redshift or Fargate.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Notice or not any infrastructure change is brutal - even if you go like for like.

I'm not saying I'm against the idea: I loathe all the centralization and robber barons running around in this era. But switches like these rarely go as planned. If haste is required even less so.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Oh I get it. We made the jump from Google Cloud to AWS, and I'm sure there are companies that are even more vendor locked. But a good example of what people can do when they don't have a choice is the new PCI 4.0 roll out that has cost companies millions they wouldn't spend unless made to do so. Will it be a mountain to climb and cost a ton, yeah, but change in the right direction isn't always easy.

I'm with you, it will be hard, and they need a good system for extensions and the like, with a reasonable time line. But this is good change IMO, even if it's painful.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd double my mortgage just to see microsoft365 crumble.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But you love teams right?! (get the gas can - I'll get the matches)

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago

I love to wish it on my worst enemies.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

There is no feature that is simpler than gsuite. So much duplication and needless services and apps.

I hate google and microsoft for making me appreciate their product.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or they'll just pay the extra money and avoid all that.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is pretty much how the VMware situation shook out.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah, we've got on-prem cloud hosting at a university, and moving away from VMware is an ongoing process. Still. Two, three years after the writing was on the wall. They'd rather pay the Danegeld.

[–] balssh@lemm.ee 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From the ashes maybe a better internet will emerge then. The current one is very dogshit and only going worse.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Where do I sign up for newgrounds 2.0?