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I’ll beat this drum again: I would fully support a program where we exchange equal numbers of MAGA loyalists in Canada for trained doctors, engineers, and tradespeople looking to escape fascism.
The Americans have already shown interest in this with their idea of importing white South Africans. Is this an impossible idea?
If it's dumb and it works, then you take the dumb and exchange it for the works, it's not dumb, well, the dumb isn't there anymore and now you have more works!!
Europe could also send over our USA-lovers to MAGA-land. I like the way you think.
Yeah just put them all in a big dystopian hellhole, its basically what they want so you're actually making them happy by doing it. They can worship billionaires while complaining about not having any social benefits and experience hardships like a bunch of repressed peasants.
Are we doing Escape from New York on a national level? I'm for it.
Fuck yeah!
They will cry about having their faces eaten off, but it kind of won't be our problem anymore.
You just need to convince them that they are making it happen themselves.
And using a fishnet boat.
That’s the perfect meme, because I do feel guilty about how this fucks over my friends and family in the US. But as they don’t seem motivated to fix their own country, I feel like this may be a good way to at least help some people
scientists are smart enough to escape first, no such luck for MS, AND BS of stem though, as were not "valuable" in for-profit stem industry.
I hope Canada can change this.
One challenge has been that many of our best-educated people have left for the US, which has blunted some of the economic trickle-down effects that should accompany publicly-funded research. So we incur the costs but yet not reap the benefits, which dulls public enthusiasm for supporting this.
It’s entirely plausible to me that this system has been upended and think we should reevaluate these choices to consider expanding funding for science not directly tied to industry and short-term benefits. But I don’t think it’ll be as easy as snapping our fingers
We've got a bunch of cookers in Australia we need to dump too.
Make it crokadil and you have a deal.
I've pointed out before that most of the MAGA-land folks in Canada likely currently don't have a viable path to immigrate to the USA, see https://lemmy.ca/post/41215108/15425311 and https://lemmy.ca/post/41215108/15458003
But that doesn't mean we can't make one for them!
I imagine we could easily negotiate something like the Trans-Tasman Travel Arrangement, but between Canada and the USA - but with the additional condition that MAGA is a disqualifying condition for coming to Canada.
Like the TTTA, we should also allow the green card holders in.
Yeah likely would need to create a special system of refugee status or similar. Maybe around the concept of escaping “woke-ism”?
It doesn't even need to be equal, TBH, although if we have a refugee wave we probably will need to restrict them from some of the housing supply.
Each refugee can keep 1 home for every 3 homes they build. Obviously one human isn't building 3 homes, but if a squad of 50 refugees build 150 homes, they keep 50 and sell 50. This includes turning single family homes into plexes.
Im conflicted on multi-use buiness sapce. Either homes can be replaced with businesses at a ratio set by each city, but probably somewhere in the 1/5 to 1/10 range; or business are excluded from the sell 2/3rds rule (aka you could build a 4 plex with 3 homes and one business, than keep one home and one business, selling 2 homes)
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
[Doctor with stethoscope confusedly swinging a hammer]
Ah yes, lets build houses with 0 code by people who are VERY unfamiliar with our climate
Sounds great till you put 2 brain cells together
The workers don't define code...
Ive worked for a Sikh Indian on a 4 story hotel and he tried to bypass lots of regulations and did get caught a few times. I had to install door hangars on every door in the rented rooms after the drywall was installed.
Lots of moved electrical lines not on drawing and never added to BPs. So yeah, I call BS
That's a case of someone not following code, has nothing to do with immigration status.
Thats just one case of many I had witnessed. Now take people who are desperate and you will see people cutting corners everywhere.
Plus, how many job sites have you personally worked on??
Somewhere shy of a hundred back in the 00's when I was an electrician apprentice. Part of the reason I didn't stay in the trades was all the bullshit I saw. My boss was always on code and he always kept us on code, but that wasn't the case for all the other trades running around.
I personally never saw a FOB worker cutting code, but that's probably because the inspector was racist as fuck who would double check out work and hand wave all the white guys.
I fell into the FOB category at the time, but marginaply. I'm an immigrant flavour that's considered white now.
I mean, that's in the end how it works, right? Immigrants take your houses/jobs/whatever, but they also make them, and actually at a higher rate than they take them for several reasons.
It's just them all coming at once faster than we can build stuff that would be the problem. When an American asks me about emigrating on here, I say "bring an RV".