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[–] aramova@infosec.pub 84 points 2 days ago (5 children)

American here...

If there is one thing I'd hoped the world learned from us in the last 9 years or so, don't bend a fucking knee to conservatives regardless of where they are. Don't excuse, try to explain away or "Sanewash" shit they do.

Don't publize them, call out that idiocy was said, show why it's idiotic, and drop it. Don't give them time to dominate the news cycle.

God damnit it's frustrating seeing others go through the shit you just tried to stop, it's like watching the cars continue to slam into a pile up on a frozen foggy highway.

[–] DistressedDad@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I was happy with my Ontario Carbon Rebate cheques. The conservatives really had their way in the media, re-dubbing it "carbon tax" when it was actually a very good program with money back from. I hate how sports reporters have more tenacity than those covering politics.

[–] boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Get in their faces and never fucking move, Canada. Keep fascists marginalized and weird at any cost.

[–] Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Calling alt-right authoritarian regressives/reactionaries "conservatives" bothers me. It's like "Damn those democracies and republics, like North Korea", and "Nazis were nationalists and socialists - it's in the name".

Conservatism is being wary of change and sticking to what works. Like not fucking up the climate.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Conservative parties have been idologically opposed to the rights, freedoms, and prosperity of the regular person for centuries. Word meanings are contextual, and in the context of governing blocs, it's never meant "wary of change and sticking to what works". It has always meant "fuck you, I've got mine".

[–] Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

When feudalism was the old way, and human rights and freedoms were new, they were literally conserving the old way. The name was technically true.

Anyway, my point: Don't let enemies commandeer language with their newspeak where nothing means anymore what it apparently means and used to mean. If we agree to call them conservatives now, some literal-minded centrists (or whatever they are) will be fooled into voting them. We should repeat "that name is a lie, their actions are alt-right authoritarian". It's a mistake to go along with the lie and write on a map "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" or "Gulf of America".

Do we have a technical term for “fuck you, I’ve got mine”? Some opposite of socialism? Selfish?

That's not what Conservatism is. The ideology is and always has been about opposing equality and enlightenment values. The only difference between conservatives and the alt-right is that they're better at optics and lying.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

It would suck right now to be a conservative with so much of world politics now being between centre left and radical right, with no simple conservative position left.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately, before J.T., we had Stephen Harper. He was a conservative, Tory/Tories in Canada and other commonwealth countries.

Harper opened up some loopholes, and now a bunch of our news sources are owned by American VCs with close ties to the GOP....yaaaaay!